3rd Degree the Podcast #321

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This episode of Third Degree, the podcast is dedicated to Rags Gardner, one of the original photographers of the Dallas Burn. His work was Frequently featured on thirddegree.net Rest in peace, Rags. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Third Degree the Third Degree N Podcast Third Degree the Third Degree N Podcast third degree the third degree NE Podcast third degree the third degree. Well, hello there, DFW soccer curious person. You welcome to another episode of third degree the podcast. And this one finally feels like something fun to do as Dallas got a home win Saturday night. And so many good things came out of that particular night. It was Dallas Burn throwback night. The new jerseys came out. A bunch of classic heroes were in the building. I got to hug Jason Kreiss and Brandon Pollard at the exact same time. My brain almost melted. And we had what I think was the most needed moment in this club's recent past, which is one Samuel Server. And we'll talk all about that over the course of this particular episode. There he is. It is the good Dan Crook. Howdy, big dude. [00:01:29] Speaker C: How's it going? Oh, you know, obviously pretty peachy, right? [00:01:34] Speaker B: If you hate winning is fun. [00:01:36] Speaker C: You know, I was really surprised when the fireworks went off at the game. I forgot that they did that after those. The highlight of the weekend was absolutely Jason Krauss complimenting my sneakers. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Oh, wow. That is a good moment. Could probably have to write that one down on the calendar and checking in from parts somewhere not north Texas probably temperate climate, really nice outside or whatever it is your hero, my hero, everybody's hero. Editor found founder of third degree.net and the original soccer influencer himself, Buzz Carrick. Come in, Buzz. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it was most of them of the day. Today was in the mid-50s where I was driving. I think it's probably about 60 something where I am now. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Fu. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Buzz up here in Boise at the minute. [00:02:22] Speaker B: I hate you. [00:02:23] Speaker A: No, I'm on my way back. I'll be in 100 soon enough. [00:02:26] Speaker B: You know what? You weren't here for the amazing night at the stadium. So there. Stick that up yours. [00:02:33] Speaker A: I know. Jason Christ came back for the first time in 20 years. That's awesome. I love it. [00:02:38] Speaker B: I was walking back to my seat and I saw Jason speaking to somebody. So I paused to say hello. He was very nice. I don't quite know if he remembered who I was. He recognized me, but I don't. I'm still not sure he remembered who I was. But we were having a fantastic conversation when out of the blue, somebody kind of grabbed me from behind. And I turn around and it was none other Than Brandon Pollard, the Great Burn. Brandon Pollard himself. And I had a pretty weirdo moment standing there talking to Jason and Brandon for another five or 10 minutes. It was really great. [00:03:14] Speaker A: You feel like you were 30 years old again. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. It was really. It was really cool. So. And Zarco was there and Mark. Mark Dodd was there, and they recognized Andy and all the other guys. It was Richard Fair. Richard Farah was there. Yes, so. And Jeff Cassar. And I'm sure I'm forgetting one of the others, but, you know, by and large, I think the team did it really upright. If I. I'm not. I'm just nitpicking. Sorry. I was really hoping they'd play Disco Inferno after goals and after the win. They did not do that. That. I thought that may have been a missed opportunity to capture that great moment. [00:03:53] Speaker C: But that said, keep with the 90s theme, though. [00:03:57] Speaker B: They did. Yeah, they did. But it was the best part of the evening, other than the game itself we'll get into, was just seeing everybody breaking out all their old Burn gear. I Wore My original 97 red away shirt. That's my favorite Burn kid of all times. And then I got. Some guy walked up to me, and he was wearing the white home version. And so we took a picture side by side of each other with those shirts. And I saw other. There was a guy walking around in a Atletica Joselita Vodka shirt. Did you see that guy? Wow. What a great shirt that was. His wife was wearing the original green training Nike shirt. I love that thing. Yeah. [00:04:41] Speaker C: So I saw someone with an Alan Sitter 97 jersey. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Oh. [00:04:47] Speaker C: The best one by far was Bobby Ryan's son Miller, wearing his 9899 jersey. [00:04:56] Speaker B: That's nice. I didn't see that. I wish I had. That's really. That's awesome. But I was really, really impressed with the number of Dallas Burn throwback jerseys. The new one, the. The new shirt that they released. I was really impressed with how many people had rolled theirs out and were wearing them during the game. And I'll be damned. That thing looks fantastic. And I know I'm jumping through the run sheet here, but I just got to get to this, Dan, because all along we were really worried that they had not used the green, but they had gone some sort of gold or yellow on the accent color. And I guess that was probably a byproduct of some of these marketing material photos that they had been sending out where MLS just insists on using these ridiculous filters that change colors. And it. They are the shirts in person are perfect. The green is perfect, the black, the red, all of it is great. And really, the chef's kiss is the font kit on the back, the green numbers with the red trim and the white letters. Holy cow. That just. All those shirts look fantastic. [00:06:01] Speaker C: Did you see the. The Gazelles in person? [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:05] Speaker C: Andy had a pair. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Andy was wearing them during the radio show earlier in the day. Yeah, they're great too. [00:06:11] Speaker C: They. They photograph this, like, bright yellow and that. That green is perfect. [00:06:15] Speaker B: It's perfect. It really is. The shirts are great. I can't wait to order one for myself. I'm waiting because I want one with a number and the patches and everything, so I want to get all that sorted out. [00:06:25] Speaker C: You'll be waiting till next month? [00:06:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't mind waiting. [00:06:29] Speaker C: Unfortunately, I wear above a large, so they never got the Authentics in, and who knows when they will. [00:06:35] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Well, it was a great night for a whole bunch of other reasons, but just in terms of the burn stuff and the throwbacks and everything, I thought that was all really, really great. Buzz, before we get. I'm sorry, we're gonna say Dan. [00:06:49] Speaker C: Oh, I was gonna say just kind of on that. So before the game, I got a chance to go to the players lounge to. To speak to a few of the players and. And whatnot while they were doing all, like, their TV interviews. And, you know, bumped into Andy down there, spoke with Dan Hunt for a bit about the jerseys. And they had this table laid out where they'd. I guess, you know, it was a whole weekend thing. So they hosted them all for dinner on the Friday night. Supposedly everyone was drinking till like, two in the morning and still looked fresh as a daisy. They had these boxes on the table, so like FC Blue, FC Dallas boxes. You lift the lid and it's got a little video screen inside that plays is a welcome home message with, like, highlights of all of them. Plays a little song. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:07:40] Speaker C: With all, like the. I don't know if the jerseys were in there, but, like, scarves, socks, some, you know, just a bunch of, like, little gifts for them. [00:07:49] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:07:50] Speaker C: That was really cool to see that. [00:07:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was. That was great. I was thinking about it while you were talking about that. I realized I should have had. I should have asked Jason if I could take a picture of the back of his shirt with his. Because they had his number in his name on the back of the shirt and it looked great up front. And I didn't get a picture of that. But anyway, it was A good time. And, Buzz, before we get into the game, I think we really want to spend some time. Now that I've blown 10 minutes yammering about the. In important stuff. Or maybe it was the important stuff. [00:08:21] Speaker C: Important stuff. It was the happy stuff. [00:08:22] Speaker B: The happy stuff we got to start with, really, the big crisis moment that's going on. So while all this other stuff. Good. Is happening all the way over here. Don't look behind the curtain, kids, but something is Bre doing is. Lucho Acosta and Padrino both were not listed on the injury report yet. Neither one of them showed up in the 18. And the only thing we heard from the club was, quote, personal reasons. Buzz, what's really going on here? [00:08:52] Speaker A: Well, yeah, we gotta back up in time a little bit. You can call it whatever you want. We go back to the LAFC game, and we were hearing preing up to the game that Acosta had been dropped and that he was losing his captaincy. And it was all related to a tendency to be late to a bunch of stuff more recently. And you can. You can sum it up as not great leadership. And Petrino started that game, and then Acosta came in and got that yellow card. Whether he did it on purpose or whether it was just a dumb moment for him doesn't really matter. And then you might have assumed that, like, that would be the end of it. That, like, okay, now he's going to be suspended, he's going to miss the San Jose game. But something else happened. And that something is Acosta and Pedrinho basically broke team rules and went out past curfew. You know, I believe that night. And Quill just sent him home. That's why they ended up back in Dallas and not going to San Jose with the team. And that's why, other than the actual suspension from Acosta, that's why Pedrinho was sent with him and why he didn't play. And that effectively is why they didn't make the 18 on this scan. Now, you can put down personal reason, you can put down whatever you want, but the answer at this point is coach's decision. Quill has chosen not to pick those guys. Now, what does it mean? Well, the vibe and the chitter chatter that we're getting is basically something that is reflected in Quill's quotes. And if you looked at his quotes, like following San Jose and leading into the St. Louis game, and even after the St. Louis game, you see things where he says, like, the guys on the field had great chemistry. The guys that were here were Fighting for a playoff spot. And like, if you extrapolate that kind of talk forward, you get what we're kind of hearing, which is the idea that, like, we're going to try and make the playoffs with the people that want to help us make the playoffs, the people that are here that want to play, want to fight with us to make the playoffs. So, you know, effectively Quill is taking control of his locker room and taking control of his team, in a sense. Now, does this mean Acosta never plays for this team again or Pacino plays his team again? Who knows? I think it's going to be up to them. This is my interpretation at this point. I think it'll be up to them to try and earn their way back into the good graces of the coach and earn their way back on the field. Because look at how this team has responded in two games, both in terms of, like, the mentality of the players and the actual play on the field. A change in tactics is kind of come along with that as well. So, you know, it's a pretty straightforward scenario where your before that captain was not leading your team in a way the coach found acceptable. He's dealt with it, and now the team will move forward. And you can talk about personal reasons all you want. You can talk about off field. You know, the Costa had a suspension and then he was. He had something going on. You know, the bottom line is coach didn't pick him. So good on Quill for standing up for himself in his locker room and taking the steps that need to be taken, you know, and hopefully he's a good enough coach and strong enough coach that he can allow those guys to work hard. And if they come in and toe the line, then I assume they'll be back into the team. You know, you could think back to the way Oscar Pereira used to say that you got to have everybody rolling together. If everyone's rowing in different directions, you're never going to get anywhere. Everyone's got to play together and be in this together. And that's basically where they are at this point. The team that is playing together, the guys that took the field against San Jose and against St. Louis, and they did a good job. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Dan, I have not listened to the post game conference or Quills postgame conference. Did anybody specifically ask and grill him on the situation and did he comment to those questions at all? [00:12:54] Speaker A: No. [00:12:56] Speaker C: The win obviously kind of changes the mood a little bit, but yeah, yeah. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Gotta ask the question, guys. I mean, as you're in the room, you gotta ask the questions. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Here's the thing. If the team missed either of them, someone's gonna 100% ask that question. [00:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah, but listen, they put the best. [00:13:16] Speaker C: Performance of the season in without them. [00:13:19] Speaker B: So Dan Hunt spent $5 million out of his pocket for an envelope MLS MVP, and he's been. [00:13:26] Speaker C: No, no, I agree. I will say one thing. They did do potential, like preemptively head it off. Was they limited five questions, no one could answer, ask more than one. So mine is always the. The Leanne special of getting coach's thoughts on the games, because that's. That's the quotes we use for just about everything. And then beyond that, I think the. The emphasis was really more on Sam Sovereign and Josh Torquato than, you know, understood. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Well, all right, so, Buzz, I think a byproduct of all this is the fact that the two. The teams, like this time last week, we were talking about having to go on the road to play at San Jose and then come here and play a home game where they have been terrible at home, and we were worried they'd come away with this with zero points, but here we are, they've got four points instead. I think we can agree that we saw improvements in the team and some adjustments from Quill tactically that I think surprised us and have impressed in some ways. So let's talk about those things, starting with the San Jose game, where Dallas ends up getting a 22 draw. I think probably feeling unlucky or not unlucky, but I'm hoping those guys were pissed at themselves for not coming away with a full win after the way they gave up the tying. Tying goal. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that was one of Quill's quotes, was that, like myself, he speaking for himself and all the players in the locker room, they felt they deserved to win that game. You know, at the end of the day, of course, you have to be able to actually execute and do that, you know, and you can't make some mistakes that happen. But, you know, they changed to basically this, what I'm going to call 3, 4, 3. You could call it a 3, 5, 2. It's effectively the same formation. The front three sort of shift and rotate. You can easily see how that formation would have worked with Acosta instead of Padrino against San Jose. Right. Those guys are interchangeable, you know, if. If they're sort of drifting underneath and either it's commingo or it's over the next two games. Farrington, like, which. Whoever's going to be playing high alongside Musa, like, it could be Anderson, Hulu, eventually you can see how that, that shape can adapt. The real important part was the three at the back. With the, with wing backs, you know, you call that a 5 if that's your bread and butter. And looking at a double pivot with Romero and Kaik. So those things, you know, they set up to work with those guys if they come back. And yet it also works with the guys they put out on the field. So particularly for me, when you go with this back three, which of course since Dallas is not a possession team, they sit back a lot and really it looks a lot like a 5, 4 a lot of times, but it tightens up the back, it limits the defensive responsibility for the two wing backs. Torcato, who's 17 years old, and in the first game, Shaq Moore, who's more of an attacker, and in the second game, Sebastian LeGette, who's more of attacker as well, you know, it tightens up the back, it allows a clean double pivot in the, in the middle where Kaik's range can overcome Ramiro's stagnant play. But Ramiro can just sort of sit in there and Kai can run all over. Really the tactic worked really well. So it was a nice change on Quill's part. And I thought it was designed to both take advantage of the team that he has now. Because remember, these hybrid shapes they've been using aren't all about Acosta, they're only partly about Acosta. And this one will work too with Acosta or Pedrinho if those guys get back into the team and back into the coaches thinking patterns. [00:16:59] Speaker B: So from the San Jose game, let's just focus on that first. Any particular thoughts on or performances from that particular match that you wanted to point out or talk about? [00:17:10] Speaker A: Well, Torcato obviously is immense. To watch a 17 year old play as well as he is coming in and starting games, that's really tremendous. He'll be 18 later this week, I believe it is, but still remarkable to watch a guy who's gone from in the space of six months to gone from a U18 academy player to a North Texas player to now a first team player. Just fantastic on his part. He's a guy that does. He doesn't really have something in his game that like to me jumps out as like exceptional that you might like, might hang his progress on. He's just a all around really quality soccer player. And I honestly couldn't tell you like what his ceiling is because every time he plays at a level I go, wow, what A great soccer player. And then he. And he competes and he plays well and they move him up a level. Wow, what a great soccer player. He just keeps going up the chain. And so at some point maybe you think that like just being a good soccer player might not be enough, but who knows where that's going to be for the kid. He's doing a great job at his age. So that performance is particularly remarkable. Patter Musa, of course, had two games and back to back, two goals. Excuse me, in back to back games. I think that says a lot about the chance creation that's coming in this new shape. Working with double pivot, working with these wings that they've got available to them. You know, Kaik's game reading is coming along really nicely. He's really improving that he's not lunging and having to make these giant floors. Flying two footed tackles at the rate at which he was before because he's reacting earlier. Maybe that's playing alongside Romero like a fellow Brazilian, speaking the Portuguese and giving directions. Maybe that's all part of it. So those are the guys really for me that jumped out and said like, wow, look at, look at what an improvement that is. You know, for one from a kid you never seen before at all. But also from Kaikin, from Musa, who is a star player. That doesn't mean those guys can't improve. When things get going for them and they start getting the ball in places where they can score, it's terrific. [00:19:05] Speaker B: I feel like it's not a stretch to say the goal that they scored in the 85th minute, the second goal might be one of the nicest team collective sequence goals all season for this team. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I think in general you're right. That is a fantastic goal. I think in general what you're seeing is a team of players. A team, a real roster is not just a bunch of talent dumped in a pile. You have to get guys that are all working together. And when Acosta has been in there, you got a lot of guys that are standing there watching Acosta play and he would dribble into traffic and lose it, or he would try and make a pass and lose it. Now when he's not in there, everyone else goes, okay, Lucho Casa is not here. I'm going to have to do some things. And they all work together and did their jobs. And you see these better build out. Not they still struggle playing out of the back, that's still a thing. But this shape, the shape by having wing backs and having, you know, to a double pivot you now have four guys that you can help build out to from the back. You know, you have a better ability when, once you turn it over, to have multiple guys up front that are on the same page playing together, and you get these goals that create combination play and. And have these sequences that work like they're supposed to work. So the thing just flows without Acosta. Now, Lucha Acosta is a great player, but for whatever reason, everyone wasn't connected with him and functioning with him. You know that. And that's the thing. Like, you would bring him back the minute you can get everybody dialed in. Where he's in this particular system now, probably going forward, getting it all to work like it's working without him. And that may be. I don't know whether that's just because everyone's reactions or whether he's doing something. It may be hard to know without being in the locker room, you know, so, like, the. The team play, the group play is so much higher when Acosta's not in there, and it's amazing that that's true. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Well, the other observation is, is that when Acosta's not in there, it. It doesn't feel like the team is singularly focused on getting the ball to Lucho. Like, when Lucho's in the game, it feels like that's the only thing anybody has an aim for doing. And when he's not there, feels like the team actually plays together as a team. And also Lucho's turnover rate, walking around after he turns the ball over, all the other things. You know, I was thinking about this when I was watching it the other night, because Romero isn't very mobile, but Kaik is, like, we call him the golden retriever of the team. When Lucho's not out there, Ramiro's lack of mobility isn't as big a deal because somebody else is playing that position that is making an effort to come back and cover. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:52] Speaker B: And so when it's. When it's Ramiro and Lucho out on the field at the same time, that midfield, that whole kind of middle of the field looks a lot slower, especially in defensive transition coming, you know, attack to defense, the team looks a lot slower because you got one guy that's not just standing there and another guy that's, you know, doing his work. But at least the guy who's replaced Lucho is doing is putting out some effort. So I think that's some noticeable differences. [00:22:20] Speaker A: And it's important, too, to remember we talked about this a lot last year when they tried this shape, this three, four, three, this tenless, if you will, kind of shape, which is what they're doing without Acosta. It's important to have those swingers be relatively narrow. Like, we see a lot of heat map of Farrington and Bernie both playing and even Musa dropping in the midfield at times being that third midfielder. All those guys has to participate in that, you know, and the trick would be when you bring back Lucho, if you do, if you put him in for Bernie, he. He needs to be able to fill that wide component in that channel, that middle channel, or out to the wing and also work hard enough to drop back in as the 10 and be that third man in midfield. So, like, it's working because both of the quote unquote wingers are fulfilling this role, this outside to inside role, and filling those channels and not hugging the line. They're giving the line to Shaq Moore, they're giving the line to Ricado. They're playing up the middle and yet overlap wide when necessary and check back when necessary. [00:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah, the one thing, especially getting to see it in person on Saturday night against St. Louis is it does look a little hairy when the middle of the field is comprised of just two players and you've got five guys. Two guys, three guys or three guys, two guys, five guys, depending on whether or not they have the ball. And man, it just feels like some other team could really take advantage of that with just a slight. A tactical adjustment on their own part. Because that looks really sketchy in those. In those patterns of play when it's just those two dudes standing in all that field by themselves. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Well, that's why we call it a 3, 4, because it's important for those wing backs to come up and provide that horizontal width in midfield. It's one of the reasons why, I think over time, the second game we saw Alvaro and they obviously want to get urge back in there because those two guys are really rangy and they can cover out wider and they can cover out these breaks, you know, and whether you're on offense and your two wide guys are getting up or whether, you know, or even the times where both Ramiro and Kaik were crashing into the box and they left the middle wide open. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:32] Speaker A: You know, maybe we can work on that timing a little bit, not have both of them go at the same time. But, you know, it takes a group awareness. You have to be aware, like when I go, who's covering for me? Who's got this spot? Like when they turn. There were a couple times where St. Louis for sure this happened where Dallas turned it over and got caught with both of those guys up and you see dudes like Bernie sprinting back or you see ferrignus printing back. You know, guys are trying to cover up for each other and that's a real positive that you still see that work ethic for each other that sometimes was missing over the last month or so. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Dan, did you watch the San Jose game by chance? [00:25:06] Speaker C: I watched parts of it. Have you watched the whole thing? Unfortunately. [00:25:10] Speaker B: Would you like to tell people what happened on the game tying goal that broke our hearts? Can you. Right after the kickoff they, they, they go up to one trying to record that now Buzz, do you, you want to break that down? [00:25:27] Speaker A: Well, the thing, the, the most important moment is that the fact that there's a letdown there, a mental letdown and they sort of it Quill even talks about in the post game he's like we've got to still like our worst moments are right after we score when we relax. And that's basically what happened again this one. And is that the play where Kai went flying and missed? Yeah and this is the, this is what we talk about with, with like I talk about how I hate tackling and to be very clear what I mean is the two footed flying going to ground where you've. Going to ground where you've left your feet and you now have no control over your body and your momentum and if you miss, if the guy steps over you or steps around you, he's clean and gone and that's exactly what happened. And now he's a 19 year old kid and in the next game he didn't, I don't hardly remember him doing that kind of leaving his feet at all. So that's an area which he's rapidly improving and learning. Obviously that's a huge learning moment for him that he got overextended and missed bad and then they were able to walk in and get that goal quite easily. [00:26:26] Speaker B: I feel like somebody else though lost that guy from midfield and it. And Kai picked him up late. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah, he, he crossed half the field to make that sliding tackle. That's a wonderful piece of effort and shows his range but leaving your feet in that moment is the wrong decision. Yes, you're right but I don't remember whose previous mistake it probably was. Ramiro, to be honest. [00:26:50] Speaker C: No, Ramiro was off another part of the pitch. Delgado stepped up to close down the guy on the ball and it looks like it was just a breakdown in communication. So Kaik was like two steps behind the. The guy that crossed in in the end. [00:27:07] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. The only thing I remember was him flying off his feet. And I was like, no, it's super slow. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Well, and then it's exacerbated by the fact that there's some question as to whether or not the ball crossed the. The end line. And it should have been a dead play at the begin. And Var does look at the. You know, a lot of people were very frustrated. It was like Var didn't check it. Var checks all that stuff. They just. They just make a decision whether or not to go to the referee and let him look at it. And the. And the commentators only made a passing reference to it, so I don't know. [00:27:37] Speaker C: There was also a. The net cam actually had a. Had an angle that showed the bull dead on the line. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I was fairly certain that there was no way they were going to overturn that just based on the lack of anything definitive. I didn't see the net cam angle, Dan. So if there was something that saw that showed that the ball hadn't crossed the line, then, I mean, kudos to San Jose for. For having the gumption to pull that off and tie the game. It was a bit of a heartbreak because that would have been a fantastic three points for Quill and the team if they had actually pulled it off. [00:28:07] Speaker C: But I think on that goal as well, both center backs are in front of the front post, which just seemed a little bit. But I think part of that was because Shaq Moore has really stuck to his guy out wide trying to close down an option. But, yeah, you've got Marco Farfan trying desperately to chase across from the left to cover Joseph Martinez. When you two center backs up, you. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Know, it was a mess. It was a collective team pooping of pants, for sure. Was it fun? All right, so then Saturday night, burn stuff aside, they walk out, they look great in their kits. And I feel like we're not being objective unless we point out the fact that St. Louis is a really poor soccer team. And it was a great night for a lot of reasons, but I. Most of my notes that I was putting in my phone as I was watching the game up until the 80th minute, when patter Musa was essentially allowed to make that. To turn that amazing moment into a fantastic goal. We'll talk about that in a second. Was that Dallas was always this close to just giving up a goal, and it being a 11 game like that against a really, really bad team because they just couldn't put St. Louis away. And I do wonder as we get to this and we all have feel goods because we have. We're all so desperate to feel good about this team that the reality is, is that these are two results against teams essentially at the same point or way lower than them in the table. And I'm as I watched this team Saturday night in person, I really began to think to myself, man, what would a Philly or an LAFC or you know, one of the higher Seattle or somebody do to this group at this particular moment in time? Because I there is still a lot of problems with this group as which is amazing considering how much better they look prior to this. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Well, on one level, you know, be who you're supposed to be. That's important too. [00:30:09] Speaker B: For sure. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a little bit of a rotation in there. Legit's in it. One at right wing back which is interesting. You know, the Anderson Julio's not back. They're essentially playing without two DPS now because the cost is not being picked anymore. And they're, they're down DP because they're using U22 initiatives. Delgado is not on the field. One of your better U22 initiatives. You know, Augusto is looking nice, but he's super raw. There's a general tendency in this team with its, with its eagerness to, to be really physical. Well, not physical, really energetic and really aggressive and they sometimes will over pursue defensively. They, they want to over try and cover for each other and sometimes you have to kind of just let your teammates do their job. You have to have faith in them a little bit. Well, that puts you on a little bit of island sometimes when you have a couple of guys starting, you know, your center backs perhaps who maybe shouldn't be MLS starting center backs anymore and one guy maybe is going to be one in the future. So this team didn't turn into a top three team in the league overnight. Right. It just, you know, they, they were really, really struggling. They found their way back to what they were before, which is a team that can fight, particularly on the road. But they can and it's nice to see it happen at home. They can fight against a team that's in their neck of the woods. You know, the previous wins we've talked about sporting right Houston like, you know, teams that are down near them in the standings. But if you want to work your way back into the playoffs, this version is a team that can at least give themselves an opportunity. I'm not saying they will. It's a lot to ask, but they can at least fight and put some product on the field to compete and win some games. Now, do they still have problems that keep them from being an elite team? Absolutely. But those problems are going to take this next window and the window after that, really to probably put themselves in a position to be like a legitimate team. Probably still not a top three team, but maybe like a top five or six team if they can make the right moves to fit the way KLO wants to play. So it's just a step forward. Even if that step is back to where you started the season, it's still progress and it's still good. It's still important. It's still nice that Quill hasn't lost the locker room. It's still nice to see Quill have enough power that when he thinks I really need to drop this expensive player, it makes me better that he has the juice to do that, you know. Whether the club will make some decisions in the next window based on that or not remains to be seen. Can Quill coach well enough to get a couple of these guys back in and be useful pieces? I don't know. But the team looks way better now than it did two weeks ago and there's something to be excited about in that regard. Even if it's just that Petter Musa is scoring again and the thing's clicking again and if that's all it is, you can take that and go forward. And even guys like Bernie look more engaged than he's looked ever before. You know, there's just lots to be really pleased with, relatively speaking, for this stage of the season. [00:33:00] Speaker B: I agree. And while I don't think Bernie has been playing well of late, and I'm assuming there's a difference, yeah, I'm, I'm still, I'm kind of surprised that he got called for the start this particular because I, I, he was, as you said, he seems more engaged and he's trying to do things, but I just think fundamentally he's not, not ready to be an MLS starter. I don't know if he ever will be, but it's just a bunch of stuff missing to that kid's game. [00:33:24] Speaker A: If you don't have Petrina, you don't have a Costa choose gone. You know, who's your other wing? Like we saw Sarver eventually come off the bench. They're really, you'd have been going with like Anthony Ramirez, who I love but also is like 8, 19, 18, whatever he is, and has played like 5 minutes. So like they're not a really a lot of choices other than Bernie, unless you did what they did before was use Delgado as a wing and he saw how other than Elgato's fantastic set pieces against San Jose, which look great, his play as a wing didn't look so great. [00:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get to server in a minute. We've got a whole server section before we get over there. Dan, I'm curious as to your observations about the state of the team post or at least absent Loose Lucho I. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Don'T even know if it's the team as much as kind of you mentioned earlier reading into the things that Quill said. He talked about San Jose being like a turning point off the field even before the game, that a team going through that run of form, you'd expect to see when they, when they're at meals, quiet, no one really talking, but everyone was really, you know, chatty, lively, kind of sticking together. Now to say that the turning point came immediately after spending your star player home. You know, read into that work you will. He also mentioned the and we're going to talk about Sava, obviously, but the impact that Sam Sarver had specifically had had brought just by being a very lively character. So yeah, I don't know. It's. It's interesting. It seems to be very much like, all right, so tomorrow's another day. Don't you know, they. They were kind of plodding along before he was there and they'll kind of get by after. [00:35:22] Speaker B: So I again, I haven't been I think this is probably the third game I've been to in person this season. My observation from the game really was tied to Sarver's introduction to the team. Now, obviously I'm familiar with Sarver because I've heard Dan, excuse me, Buzz talk about him and his play with North Texas. I've never seen him play, at least not in person. And when he stepped on the field, I took notice of him immediately because the kid came out and I was aware of the fact. For those who don't know, the reason why the Sarver story is so amazing is made all the more amazing by the fact that the kid had played with North Texas, the B team, the night before, and it scored not one, not two, not three, but four goals in 50 minutes. He scored three of them in the first half and the fourth one just a little bit after the start of the second half and then was subbed out, flew all the way back home, was on was in the 18 and got Dallas up to nothing, was Put out on the field to play out on the right wing and instantly went out there and was running harder than everybody else on the field. I mean, the energy that kid put out instantaneously changed the vibe in the building. And then the moment where he. Somebody plays him a ball wide, he stands his defender up, passes the ball into space, and then just outruns him, gets the ball back, cuts into the box. And I thought, Dan, I don't know about you, but I thought he was getting ready to line himself up and he was going to score and the place was going to go absolutely ape. But instead, the defender does the only thing that's left and tries to win the ball and he gets the pk. And then Samuel Sarver gets up and does a celebration like he had just won the $1 billion lottery. [00:37:22] Speaker C: I'm not sure he was even up at the time. He just kind of rolled through it and was celebrating mid roll. [00:37:27] Speaker B: It was unbelievable. And then the energy in the building absolutely changed. And you would have thought Dallas had won MLS Cup. It was so great. And it was exactly the moment, at least in a home game, that this team is so desperately needed is to see a guy wearing their shirt acting like he gives a shit beyond just the regular standard stuff that you see out of him. That kid was so excited to be there in that moment, and he was so excited to get the fans fired up. And when the fans got fired up, he just got even more fired up. [00:38:01] Speaker C: Well, immediately proceeding that there was the ball over the top. I think Musa tries to flick on to. For Sava to run onto, and he fouls the guy. One Savage absolutely ballistic. Probably because he just realized that that was a great chance for him to run through and get, you know, five goals in less than 24 hours. But then he again, he turns to the crowd, he starts pumping him up. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:28] Speaker C: After the goal, starts pumping him up in the last few minutes of a 3 nil. And it's. Yeah, that kind of energy is. Is crazy. [00:38:36] Speaker B: It was instantly my favorite new Burn player. I. I mean, it was fantastic. And somebody. I wish I. I so apologize to this particular person who made this analogy. I've forgotten who it is, and I wish I could give you credit for it, but you're so spot on. The kid is filled with Bobby Ryan energy. Like, that is the most Bobby Ryan moment we have seen in this stadium since Bobby Ryan. And it was great to see a player care that much. And the question that I've been asked a couple of times after the game and since then is well, why wouldn't Buzz? Is Sam Server gonna start over Bernie the next game? And I'm gonna guess the answer is probably not. And you've probably got a really good reason for that. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Well, the main reason is, is he's been rostered now for four FC Dallas games and a player, a short term signing from North Texas can only do that for four games. And then you have to be signed like they, the, the MLSPA doesn't want. You know, endless guys coming up. You know, you can change, you can bring up different guys, but you can't abuse one guy by signing him in North Texas for $5 and then bringing him up and having him play force all year. Right? You got to pay people what they're worth. So at this point, if my understanding of the minutia rules is correct, he will now need a FC Dallas contract to play the rest of any more this season. So, well, you can sign him directly. I think you could do a full time loan up, but I think then you might have to adjust the salary. So at that point what's the difference? You know, they have him for next year on an option anyway, so at North Texas. So, you know, the other side of the coin is it's a North Texas player and while we love the engine, we love all that. They might have to if they. Depending on the number of bodies that get moved out, he could be a supplemental player which is the, you know, the bottom end of the roster. That's probably salary appropriate. He could be senior roster, which takes a lot more money if you want to put him on the supplemental roster. Like who are you moving out because there's not room down there. Do we put him on the senior when we have these other moves we have in mind coming. So, you know, maybe they know already what they want to do and maybe it's going to happen tomorrow for all we know. The kid obviously can contribute, so there's no question about that. It's just a question of when the mechanic works to make it happen and will he take the money they put on the table. Like the kid is confident if you offer him a minimum salary, will he take it or will he roll the dice that you need to pay him more? I mean, I don't know, I'm not his agent. So not a simple answer as to why it doesn't happen tomorrow. They do have open roster spots. They are looking at some other moves. So, you know, nothing happens in a vacuum. We have to consider the other things. I don't know. To me there's no reason why there isn't space for him. And I think they'll get it figured out, you know, I think they will. So it just may not be instantly, that's all. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Dallas has signed a player. And we'll talk about that here in a little bit more about Sarver here real quick. I, I want to explain how impactful Sarver was because I was sitting in Section 106, famously known as the library. Now I don't, I don't yell at all as a fan in the stands anymore. I stopped doing that years and years ago. But when he won the PK and Dallas is up to nothing and it's what, the 85th minute of the game. Clearly Dallas is going to win the game. That's not the problem. I saw Sarver. The ball ended up in Petr Moose's hands. And almost involuntarily it just came out and I said it. And if you know me personally, you know I have an obnoxiously loud voice. I just, I yelled really loudly, let Sarver take the pk. I think it just seems so obvious that Sarver should take the pk. And I said it two or three times. I was like, holy Christ, let him take the pk. And the library actually broke into chant. Guys, people in 106 in the library all began to chant Sar. Ver. Sarver. And it went on for, I don't know, a good 10, 15 seconds before it finally fell apart. But it was pretty remarkable that this kid stepped on the field and got the library to actually break out into chant. And that was a pretty great moment. [00:43:08] Speaker A: You could hear that chant on the broadcast, over the broadcast, the server. So, you know, it is a great moment. And he's an intercessor bunny of a player. And I, I don't think there's any reason why you wouldn't add him again. Mechanics. [00:43:21] Speaker B: Why didn't he take the. Why wouldn't they let him take the pk? I'm sure there's some, I'm sure there's a protocol hierarchy of senior player or. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Whatever, 13 million dollar striker out of the field. That's why. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Yeah, but Moose, come on, let him take the pk. [00:43:35] Speaker C: I actually asked him about that after the game. So, you know, did you have any thoughts of, you know, not taking it but asking for it? He's like, no, absolutely. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Well, I don't know if everybody else noticed this, but when everybody lined up for the pk, I don't even know if I've ever seen a player do this before. Sarver stood on the side of the 18 yard box. Have you ever seen anybody do that before, Dan? [00:44:00] Speaker C: I can't think of a time in pro soccer. [00:44:03] Speaker A: I can't think of a specific, but I know I have. You know, because if, if the shooter goes to that side and the keeper saves it, it can come right to you. I guess people have done that. [00:44:13] Speaker B: It was remarkable. Well, I'm glad Musa finished it, but server should have taken the pk. Yeah. [00:44:22] Speaker C: Interesting kid talking to. Yeah, I was talking to him just before he did the MLS360 interview and said growing up he, he moved high school four times. Like, and he absolutely loved doing it. Like just to meet new people and kind of. Yeah, be that. So it's like, okay, I guess coming into a new team. Yeah, perfect environment for him. [00:44:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he got, if you haven't watched it, go find. I think Dallas tweeted it out or put it on social media. He did a whole five minute interview with the MLS 360 crew. Turns out that Bradley Wright Phillips knew him and had trained him at Columbus. [00:45:00] Speaker C: Did pre. Yeah. When he was at Columbus Academy. It was the year that BWP signed on with them and they did preseason together. [00:45:09] Speaker B: The moment where Sam goes, yeah, I didn't know if you'd remember me. Brad's like, yeah, of course I remember you. [00:45:16] Speaker C: So I'm in the room when they're getting set up for that and you know, the producers like kind of talking through and, and Sam's just kind of talking to everyone in the room and he's like, yeah, it's funny. I, I, you know, I did pre season with, with Brad. I wonder if he, I wonder if he'll remember me. And you just hear the producer just pipe up. Yep, that's one of the reasons we asked you. [00:45:37] Speaker B: That's great. Okay, so Buzz, since I'm gonna guess most people really don't know much about Sarver and his skill sets. Obviously he's good at attacking space and he's a get in behind the defense kind of guy. Is he a guy that can actually maybe help Dallas in some way through the rest of the season? Is he that quality of a player? Is he ready to do that? [00:46:02] Speaker A: Well, if nothing else, you can use them like, you just use them, which is late game energy off the bench. When you bring that kind of, he's got pace, you know, he's shorter, but he can, he's can really run and he can run out people with the ball. He can run and get behind people. He can go inside and combine he's not going to be like, like nifty little dribbler and dribble through like a triple team or anything like that. But he can dribble and run past people and play in combination. So you can use him as a wing, you can on either side. You can start him as, start or bench him off as a nine. You know, he's a little short for a nine, but he can play a very direct kind of nine. You know, he's a good leader with his effort and his intensity. You know, everyone seems to like him when he scores. Everyone celebrates with him. So absolutely, you can use him over the course of this season. Now, is he going to start in front of an Anderson Julio or a Musa? No, don't be ridiculous. But, you know, when you have a guy that's proven he's capable of scoring at a really high level at North Texas, that's what we want to see when we talk about transition for that kind of player. He's talking. He just showed in this game that he can get at people dangerously enough to put himself in position to score, which again, he might have converted if he hadn't been taken down for the PK and that kind of thing. So, yeah, if they can figure out how to get him on the roster, they can absolutely use him. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Well, Dallas put a kind of a timeline together of his situation over the course of the 24 hours and the four goals that he scored for North Texas. I think it was against Kansas City, too. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yep. [00:47:26] Speaker B: Three of the goals are him just blowing past guys. The first or first or second one in particular is not dissimilar to what happened in the FC Dallas game where he just stood up his defender and threw the ball in behind and just outraced the dude to the ball. It was fantastic. And all the finishes were actually really mature, easy. Just. Just slot the ball past the keeper kind of finishes. I was really impressed. So I hope we get to see more of my favorite new Burn player, Samuel Sarver. [00:47:53] Speaker A: Yeah, he ain't 17, he's 22. He scored a lot of goals in Indiana. The kid knows how to play. Yeah, no question for sure. [00:48:00] Speaker C: Played. I think he played USL League two every season, so he was getting that kind of little extra. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:07] Speaker C: Slightly more adult soccer. [00:48:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And Samuel will be joining me in the particular hair club at some point later in his life, too. Yeah, I'm proud of him for that. Well, all good. So Dallas ends up getting a home win, a clean sheet celebrating the heritage of what happened prior to this club. It was A great night all the way around and we may have seen a little bit of a star in the making and it was a great night all the way around. Now Dallas has an odd Friday night game at home coming up against NYC fc. Anything in particular we should know about that in advance? Guys, take it away. Whoever. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Let me talk about se Dallas first and then if Dan has stuff on New York, you can do that. You know, there was a little bit of rotation in this last game, right? We saw Shaq Moore get a game off. We saw a far fan who had been playing center back but you know, didn't get a start. Now remember there is Tigris reported interest in him, so who knows what that is. But it makes a lot of sense that you could bring back both far fan as a wing back on the left and Morris wing back on the right. I thought Augusto looked pretty good in that back three. I'd be okay with that continuing. Obviously they're trying to get Ergide back. You know, he got more minutes in this game and by the time you give him another four game days off, off or so, maybe he's ready to be a start. Kaik and Ramiro I think is fine. Leave that alone. I. I have no idea when Anderson Julio will ever be able to play again. You know, for like three weeks ago he was questionable for one week and now he's back to going back to out. We haven't seen anything on him. So in the meantime, I don't know why it wouldn't just be Farrington and Camungo with Karamusa for the front three. You know, know you get into questions of does Lucha Acosta or Pergino get back on the bench or not? Otherwise I think it's pretty cut and dry. Aside from Irigide and the wing back rotation that happened, it's all pretty straightforward at this point. You know, you do have a couple of guys that may come in on the next window, but they're not ready for this game. They can't even be added to the roster yet. So the, you know, if they get Sarver done, which they can because he's part of the organization already, it's just a change in the status with the new contract, you could get him done. Would you start him in front of a Bernie or a Logan Frankton? I don't. I seriously don't think so. So I think most things are pretty set with the possible exception of Delgado, who played wing and did some really nice things, you know, serving the ball and he looks pretty good when he has to slide back into that wide midfield spot. Didn't look nearly as good when you actually asked him to play wings. So he's a possibility in there and really that's about it. There's not a whole lot of debate for Quill other than, like, I don't think that you. I don't think there's any reason for him to bring Acosta back unless we see some side of our hear of some sort of effort in training or something like that. I mean, we may be looking at a quite a while before we see a Costa Pedrinho in the 18 based on coaches decisions. [00:51:15] Speaker B: I want to come back to that second, but I was dawning on me, now that we've seen Uruguay play late in both the last two games and sub in, is there a chance that he may start and we'll get the Boubacar iron trifecta? [00:51:29] Speaker A: I. I think it's possible. You know, you're trying to push up his minutes like you, you. You don't start him when you officially do. You don't start him and thinking he's going 90, you start him and thinking, I want to get him past halftime, you know, like, because he, he had. He came in a little earlier. What was it, like 30 minutes this last game, Dan? I think maybe so, like, you want to push that up. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Less than that, I think. [00:51:51] Speaker A: Was it less than 30? Maybe it's one more bench game then perhaps. Is there a. I think there's a break after this game. Is there not for SC Dallas? Don't they have a week off next week? So, like. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah, they. [00:52:03] Speaker A: The first week of August. They're off, right? [00:52:05] Speaker B: Yeah, they're off. They don't play until the 9th. [00:52:07] Speaker A: So maybe if you're being. Look, look, you're not going for MLS cup, so. Okay, one more. One more game for irrigating off the bench. Bring him on at halftime maybe and say, see if you can get 45, 50 out of him. And then he gets two weeks before the next game and then. Okay, he'll be ready to start. Right. So, you know, don't go crazy. The other guys look pretty solid, so, you know, no reason why you can't go Ibia, Obibakar, Agusto again. Or if you like, if you love Turcado and you want to bring Farfan back. Is that center back? That's okay. But I thought Augusto. Alvaro. Augusto did pretty good. I want to see him go again. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Now, since you mentioned it, and it's funny because I think we. I know I Joked about this on several podcasts ago when we. When Buzz started talking about the Lucho Acosta problem, which was its own on field problem, absent of all this other ridiculousness that's going on today or currently. And we made the joke about, well, maybe somebody who's a contender might be willing to take Lucho off Dallas's hands because they're trying to make an MLS cup push. And here we are at the transfer window. Dallas. I think I'm gonna. I mean, I. This is the part that I don't know. And again, this is a byproduct of the fact that the club just doesn't give anybody very good access to ask them questions. Is, do we think that Dallas is actively out trying to find a way to disassociate itself with and get rid of Acosta at this point? [00:53:36] Speaker A: I don't know, man. Because that's, you know, doing that means you have to admit that you screwed up. And listen, let's not make revisionist history. We all thought that getting, like, a player like Ocasa was a great idea. I think you were right, Peter, when you said, like, if they don't go get him when they could have, we'd be blasting them for it. Right. So when everyone was on board with that move, it just hasn't worked. So it can be hard to admit that it hasn't worked. Maybe they want to think, you know, six months is a little short. Let's see if Quill can work him back in at the same time. You remember he asked to go back to Argentina and Cincinnati sold him to Dallas instead. He wanted to go home. You know, we know that his salary is probably prevent. Would probably prevent that in terms of like a transfer, you know, or a loan or something like that. So, you know, maybe. Maybe they can work some magic and moving. But. [00:54:24] Speaker B: And that was not as apparently really good at doing is selling. [00:54:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But at the same time, they might want to say, hey, you're the coach. Coach them up. You know, we gotta. We got a fat asset here. You know, Remember, that's their idea. It's like we just get the players for you. It's your job to coach them. So they might be like, he's a good player. Coach. [00:54:41] Speaker B: If you can find somebody to take an East Soli and get another team to give you $9 million for Alan Velasco and his missing left knee, somebody's got to want to take Lucha Acosta on a. On a cheap deal somehow. [00:54:55] Speaker A: He said he wants to go to Argentina. So if you can Sell Argentina, that would be terrific. And you can get out of at least part of the money money and open up that DP spot. That's, you know, maybe you have to use your buyout on the, on a bunch of the money or something. And then you're talking about hunt pocket money. That's a little different. So like, you know, it would not shock me to see them want to just, you know, they're not good on the sunk cost part. Sometimes they're like, we paid money for this guy, we're keeping them, you know, so it's hard to predict what they're going to do in the next window. Is anyone else going to an MLS trade even for a short term deal? Because remember, the contractors through 2026 with an option. It's not 2025 in an option, it's 2026 in an option. So someone's thinking, I got to take on 3 million base 4.3 with incentives. You know, I got to take that on for this year and next year. And he's going to be 32 next year. Like, if someone, even if you're in an MLS cup chase, that's a DP money, that's tough to add unless you really, really need a 10, you know, and I don't know if that qualifies for anyone who's in the MLS cup chase. Maybe it does. Maybe it does. Let's see what they can do. [00:56:00] Speaker B: What do you think happens to Pedrinho? I know maybe he's just the running buddy in all of this, but obviously, I mean, and people. I've been seeing on your discord that people have been following him on his Instagram account and he's been posting some weird stuff that people are speculating is indicating that maybe he, they feel like they like look at that and speculate that maybe he's. No, not long for hair either. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Well, he and Acosta, who I'm told are super tight, super close, you know, and that's why he was with Acosta when, you know, and got in trouble with Acosta. Yeah. So I'm not going to get into like the various things I heard, because none of it matters. What matters is you broke a team rule. There have been times before people broke a team rule. And the bigger reaction is about, you know, what it means to the locker room that Quill's taking control of it and stamped it down and said, I'm not letting it happen. You know, Acosta's got way more juice. Padrino has no juice. He has no juge, you know, no power. You know, if Acosta's gone, does he think, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Never mind, I'm, I'm cool, I'll play along, I'll be a team player. Or does. Maybe I'm being disingenuous. Maybe he just got caught up in it and he's a 20 year old kid, you know, there's still lots of career ahead for him. I wouldn't, you know, rule out keeping him around. I think that there's enough ability that if he's not being. Sorry, 22 years old, if he's not being, you know, pulled in ways by someone that shouldn't be pulling him in different ways, then maybe he's a perfectly legitimate player. Relatively good price. He's on 100k. You know, they only have him through this season though, so he's easy to just, you know, at the end of the year, if you, if you've made, if he's burned enough bridges in your locker room, just let him go. You know, if you send him to train with North Texas, play with North Texas, no one's going to care. You know, it's just a dude, right? I mean, send him to play North Texas if you really don't want him around. It's all about Acosta. That's, you know, Padrino is just window dressing at that point. [00:57:59] Speaker B: It is crazy how Dallas benefits from the lack of media attention in this town that they. Yeah, it's these exact situations where there's nobody in the media paying attention or gives two squirts. That totally works in Dallas's favor. [00:58:14] Speaker A: I'll imagine if he was a cowboy and he was like your second quarterback or something. How bonkers it would be. It would be all day on talk radio. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Yeah. The captain of any other pro team in town is suddenly now, you know, not, not even making game day rosters and nobody knows why. And in the, in the meat and the, and the, and the excuse given or the reason given to the public is quote, unquote reasons. Nobody would put up with that. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, FC Dallas is not known for publicizing guys that have got in trouble for breaking league rules, you know. [00:58:46] Speaker B: Oh, I get that. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Before you may remember this, there was a time where I can't remember exactly who it was. It was Jesse Gonzalez and two other players. This is before Jesse's big problems. They all were late and they made the whole team miss a flight. Like a charter flight out of RSL. [00:59:03] Speaker C: Was one of them. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it was three guys and they, those three knuckleheads you know, cause all this huge problem. So they got benched for a couple days and Dallas was just like, oh, it's just personal coaches decision. It's like, dude, you made them miss like a charter flight out of Salt Lake City or something like this. Like, it was like that. It's like they all the flag. The whole airline had to delay. Like, it was a mess. You know, I don't. I don't talk about that. [00:59:26] Speaker B: I don't blame the front office for doing this because they get away with it. They know they can just put this out there and nobody's really going to ask them what's going on. [00:59:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:59:35] Speaker B: And that's the real shame in all of it. But, Dan, before we move on, I know that you talk to people too. Are you hearing anything different or additional about this that you want to share? [00:59:46] Speaker C: No. There was one thing that I found a little bit odd. It's the fact that after the game, Lucia Acosta walks across the field. It felt like a situation where you're like, hey, you can watch the game. But like, just keep quiet. You know, weird. Because the first thing people saw is him walk across the field. And then it's personal reasons. What's his personal reason? Obviously, he couldn't miss the game. [01:00:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:13] Speaker C: So then, you know, then suddenly there's this notion of, oh, he quit on the team. But, like, Pedrinho doesn't receive that same. Because nobody's. So Pedrinho just, I don't know, seemed like a little bit of mismanagement from. I don't even know what side of the team that would fall on. [01:00:32] Speaker B: I. I don't want to. I don't want anybody to get the sense that I'm sticking up for FC Dallas. But it's not like Lucha Acosta doesn't have a reputation for being a pain in the ass and commonly being on the wrong side of these deals. I mean, he essentially ran himself out of two clubs prior to this. And. And there's all. I mean, I've heard. I've read so many different. Various versions of events with the Cincinnati situation. The. The DC one I kind of understood because of the whole. He wanted to. Was it PSG that wanted to buy him or somebody in France wanted to buy him and. Yeah, and didn't happen. And he was unhappy about that. The Cincinnati one. I've heard various stories. Everything from not getting along with the coaches to they're not helping, they're not staffing the team correctly in terms of supporting players. Just something going on with his wife off the field, I've heard everything. But by and large, the, the, the kind of common thread is that he's just really difficult to deal with. And maybe he is really difficult to deal with. But I will point out, as other people have pointed out, his personality traits and behavioral issues were all brought up to one. Andre Zenata in his conference. Press conference about this. And Andre Zenata throughout the very cocky. I've, I've worked for team. I'm Brazilian. I know how to do this. [01:01:48] Speaker A: We remember he's gonna. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Right. [01:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna have to, you know, have a grade here on how he handles this next window. [01:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:56] Speaker A: How he handles Lucho Casa and if he just dumps it all on Quill or not is part of that process of reviewing that stuff. And like, look, if you don't, let's say your person out there that, like, says, I don't know where you guys are getting that. I believe the personal. Whatever, that's fine. Look at how the team reacted when Lucha Casa got taken out of the team. Look at how much better it plays these last two games with that dude not on the roster. Right. So clearly that alone demonstrates that the Lucha Acosta problem was real and that it exists beyond just like what he's doing in terms of the tactics. Yeah, there's a bigger problem here, you know, so, like, they have to sort this out this next window. And the answer could be you're just not going to play the rest of this season. In spring, you can try and win your job back. Or maybe it's they're going to try and move him. We're going to see what they do this window, the proof will be in the pudding with Busanada and Quill. You know what's going to happen with that guy and Acosta. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Maybe Lucho will go the Diego Luna route and get himself a job at a coffee shop so he can learn how to do human interaction better. [01:03:01] Speaker A: I doubt at this point in his career that he's going to do. [01:03:04] Speaker B: You walk into a ascension and there's Lucha Acosta making up rocks up in. [01:03:09] Speaker C: His Ferrari and puts his apron on. [01:03:14] Speaker A: My assumption at this point is he'll again ask to go home to Argentina. [01:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. All right, well, lo and behold, the team has spent some money. A million dollars being reported for picking up Haitian international. Don. Wait, Excuse me, Lucius. Don Dietzen, who is coming over from the Belgian second division. I, you know what? Here's the thing. Here's a guy. I, I, I, I didn't realize this until after the fact. I have actually seen this player in person play. I watched him score a goal against my national team and I don't remember any of it. Him, his qualities, nothing. I mean I, I have no, I have no judgment on him whatsoever. So clearly he's a standout player. [01:04:02] Speaker A: Well, the first thing we should be very clear about is that the interwebs let us down. He does not in fact have U. S. Citizenship as we were led to believe by the interwebs. So he does require an international spot, which is a bummer. It would have been nice to get him through without that. But yeah, we're, you know, Pacey over the top, get behind wing right. Isn't that what we've heard? You know, kind of a loose touch, but. So is he another obrion? Is he another, I don't even think of good example Castillo? Or is he one of these guys who just comes in and can't get on the same page as everybody else? Well, I guess we'll see when he gets here. [01:04:39] Speaker B: A guy over on Blue sky named Paul Harvey who is pretty well regarded in terms of his scouting of players and everything just involved, you know, unsolicited, posted that he apparently has watched a lot of of Deetson play of late and he had some questions as to whether or not he was going to be MLS quality or MLS ready. And my reading of his response was is he felt like he was pretty much on Camungo's level, which is this is not a team that needs another boonie or Bernie Camungo level type player, especially one that you spend $1 million on and give up an international slot. [01:05:16] Speaker A: For, well, for 1 million bucks with, with a reportedly up to 4 million in incentives, he better be a guy that can bring more. Now if, if he's not going to make a big impact, what do we have? 11 games left and the window is going to open up by the end of this week. So like he's not going to be playing Friday. So there'll be 10 games left. Right. So I don't know if my math is correct. I don't know how concrete of a difference that guy can make if he even becomes a starter in the amount of time left. You know, at this point when you're doing moves this late in the season, the window's really late this year and you only have 10 games left. Most of your moves are really, you almost have to consider this a precursor to next season in a lot of ways. So like because when a guy comes in for him to get on the roster, you know, which might take a week or so. Remember, the guy's gonna have to get a visa. And he's Haitian. Right. Not always the easiest combination. So what, there could be a few. [01:06:18] Speaker B: Steps up from being Venezuelan. [01:06:19] Speaker A: Right. Well, I'm not trying to make some judgment. I'm just seeing the way the world it is right now. [01:06:23] Speaker B: Sure, I get it. [01:06:24] Speaker A: Right, so, like, visas can be slow, particularly from places like Haitia. Right now, Haiti. So, I mean, is there going to be four games left by the time he's here? And actually, and then it's like integration into the team, tactics. Like, how many games will this guy actually start by the end of the year? If it's more than five, I'll be amazed that I'll consider that a huge victory. So really, this is a guy for next season. And so at that point, you like, you know, do the look. They Quill wants two vertical wings like Anderson Julio. Bernie hasn't been great. So this guy better be better than Bernie, you know, or you've wasted your money. If you're not better than Murnie, you've messed up big time. [01:07:03] Speaker B: Is server better than Bernie? [01:07:08] Speaker A: He might be. Server is. If Saver finishes the year in North Texas, his numbers will be pretty much what Bernie's were when Bernie signed. Now Bernie stagnate. Yeah, Bernie's at North Texas. You know, he'll. Sarver will do just about the same numbers if he stays there for the rest of the year. So, you know, kind of on the same page coming up. Sarver's got boatloads of confidence and is really hot and playing really well and really aggressive and feels good about himself. Bernie's been in a slump for two seasons and maybe doesn't feel great about himself. You know, Sarver's played in a bunch more systems and arguably probably coming through Indiana and coming through Columbus's academy, probably has played a whole lot more games with a good technical coaching staff, whereas, you know, Bernie didn't have that until he got to North Texas. So really, he's not had that nuanced level of tactic development his whole career. So Cyber might be more polished at this point, you know, what does that mean for Bernie? I don't know. Plus, Bernie usually plays left and Cyber usually plays right for whatever that's worth, you know. So I think you'd have to look at Sarver more as a Anderson Leo right side backup than you would like a left side replace Bernie. Whereas this other guy, being a lefty, you might look at him as Bernie's a lefty, this guy coming in as a lefty, this guy's coming in and maybe take Bernie's spot in this new double wing system. [01:08:26] Speaker B: All right, so FC Dallas has their weird Friday night game against NYC FC up at the stadium. And then North Texas featuring one Sam Server have a home game not in Arlington but in Frisco. And this is the. Is this a. What is this game they're playing up in Frisco? This on Saturday night? [01:08:45] Speaker A: It's an international friendly against originally, I think Dan, it was against the team that won the reserve league, I think in League of Mexico. So the idea was that like you were playing like your second team champion versus your second team sort of champion. I don't. I think maybe the team changed. So it's just a really good Mexican reserve team. [01:09:06] Speaker C: It's the same team. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Okay. [01:09:10] Speaker C: It's Chivas's second team. [01:09:13] Speaker A: So basically the idea is almost like you remember they used to have that, that, what was it called? Interleague cup where it was just MLS champion versus league champion. So this is kind of that I could think for like the second team. [01:09:27] Speaker C: The second division team and yeah, MLS. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Next part, it's the enter NIT Cup. Yeah, Interleague NIT Cup. [01:09:35] Speaker A: So you, you can, you know, if Summer is going to be signing with FC Dallas, you won't see him in that game. If he's not, then he'll be down, I would assume with North Texas playing that game. And there are other good players to watch with North Texas sc so you can get your ticket for them up in the Frisco area and watch them play. It'll be fun. [01:09:51] Speaker B: I'm sorry if you're not Sam Sarver, I'm not sure. I don't care. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair. I did not assume nothing else to be. [01:10:01] Speaker B: Peter, don't, don't, don't listen to me. Texoma. Got it. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Talk about cap is first. [01:10:07] Speaker B: Oh, yes. So sorry. Good Lord. The most MLS story of all MLS stories. It are reports that one Chris Capus has found his way finally back home. [01:10:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know where this is in terms of being over the line. I can confirm it's legit that like that discussion is on the table to some stage. I don't know if it's finalized yet. So it was easily predictable. We predicted that the minute quote was higher that this would happen. Happen. If you guys don't know, Chris Capus came up through Houston Texans when Quill was their coach. Capis and Chris Richards won the D a championship at like 18 years old. Quill then handed the two of them to FC Dallas after the one season of the FC Dallas Academy. FC Dallas tried to sign both. They signed Richards. Houston had the territory rights on campus and blocked his signing even though there was no mechanic by which Houston was could sign him and he would never would have signed with them. So I wrote this article at the time about how Houston stiffed Dallas out of signing Chris Capus. So he went to Europe and he's played in Norway and a couple of other places. He met his wife over there. He's been I don't know something like four to six years now. And what I will tell you is he is a box to box 8 I actually rated him personally higher than PAX. Now that is a when he came out of the academy now it was only a little bit but campus is like 6:1 and a big huge physical midfielder with lots of willpower and he would dominate games. [01:11:41] Speaker B: He's more like Testament than he was past in terms of size and just kind of unit being a unit. [01:11:46] Speaker A: Same position as both of those guys too. Cabbage can six a little bit but he's a box to box guy could score from deep. You know just my favorite story about him was and he got a US I think think it was a U20 camp call up and he went to Spain I think and it was right about the time of the Dallas cup and he came and he flew back from the States like overnight on a plane 24 hours landed at the airport and at like 2 o' clock and they had a game in the Dallas cup at 5 and Chris Hayden was like hey, you're back, that's cool, come join us watch the game. And captain is like no, I'm starting. And they were like oh okay. So he walked off a plane and he went into that game and against the it was somebody from Brazil, I can't remember who it was. And he bossed that game. The kid has got guts. So his career has not quite gone like I expected. But he's Quill's guy and Quill knows him. And so I think if they get him, you know at a price that we've seen reported if they get him at that price, if he just turns out to be a dude that Quill trusts and it's just a role player here that's still a good AD because he'll be buy in with the coaches doing, he'll work hard and he's a great locker room guy. If he actually resalvages himself and becomes even better. Remember, this is a guy that was a French national team where he and Paxton both were like January campers or like some of those European camp, like fringe, right. National team stuff. [01:13:06] Speaker B: He took Paxton's place on one of the youth teams when Paxton had to stay behind in Dallas. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah, had a Cap or two with the national team. I can't remember how many or they were official, whether it was just friendlies or whatever, but this is, that's the level we're talking about of a player here. So, you know, not a guy. You shouldn't be upset when FCL signs a guy that was right outside the national team. Those guys don't get cops, they don't get pulled away. They're gonna be around. So I think this is a great move, even if he just turns out to be a roster guy. And I think he's got a chance to be better than that under a coach that knows him well. [01:13:38] Speaker B: You know, we, we're kind of giggling, or at least I kind of giggle when I see them sign a guy from a second division team in Belgium and a Haitian international. And, and I don't giggle when they sign Chris Capis, who's playing his game over in Norway and has been, you know, banging around different Scandinavian leagues for the last five years. But that's because we've seen this kid play. We know what he's made of. We know who he is. Deedson may show up here and absolutely ball out. I hope he does. It's just on the track record, the, you know, on the, on the overall track record of Dallas going out and finding guys like that, it's not necessarily as successful. [01:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:15] Speaker B: So. [01:14:15] Speaker A: And Cap is coming home. You know, his family's from Texas. He's not a transplant. He's from Texas. You know, he's got a young wife he's bringing with him. He's going to be happy. I assume he's going to be happy here. You know, we know what we're getting in him is with the hope that. [01:14:29] Speaker B: He can be that if he signs. Is that quietly. Any kind of indicator about the status of Palm Call? [01:14:37] Speaker A: Yes, I think so. I mean, I think. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Are you speculating or do you know something? [01:14:42] Speaker A: I'll speculate. Speculating. I, you know, I, I think this, this signing would have been happening no matter what with Paxton. And maybe you can look him as shows replacement, maybe okay, instead of Paxton's. But, you know, at this point, any kind of eight that comes in makes me think Paxton, you know, got a million dollar salary For a guy that doesn't play, you know, when you play, it went something like 6 minutes, 9 minutes, 55 minutes out for a month and a half. I mean, like, if you can't do 55 minutes on a million bucks, I mean, we love Paxton, but that's ridiculous, man. We can't have that on a roster. You can't waste that kind of money. So, you know, I mean, and plus, anytime you're bringing in eights, you have to wonder about Paxton. You know, you include legit, by the way, who's on a million bucks and is what, 32, right? You have to think about that, too. Like, remember this window, because it's so late, is about next year. It's not this year, it's about next year. [01:15:45] Speaker B: Thanks for bumming me out, Buzz. Appreciate it. [01:15:46] Speaker A: Sorry, man. All right. Keep it real. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Back to the birds. Texoma ends up getting a draw against Chattanooga. 11 of. What is this a continuation of the winning streak? Is the win. Oh, no, the winning streak got busted. That's right. Yeah. [01:15:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. This is. They've lost 1 in 10, I think it is now. So, I mean, just ridiculous what they're doing. They had a defender score, which is always fun. They're up in seventh place and the standings. They got two games in the USL cup, which I know you love coming up, Peter. So one against Union Omaha and one against Colorado Switchbacks, which is always a fun name. So just one of the most insane turnarounds I've ever seen. And if you get a chance to go see him play, you should. [01:16:26] Speaker B: Okay, Dan. Anything going on with Trinity these days? Is their season. Their second season looms large. [01:16:34] Speaker C: Pre seasons underway. They just signed another local player, Lauren Lamada, originally from Prosper Fallback actually signed from. [01:16:52] Speaker B: Crap. [01:16:52] Speaker C: Where'd you find Sign from one of the. I think it was Palmer. It was a. An Italian team. She was University of Texas's record holder for most appearances. She was in the Solar national championship team with Lexi, Massimo and Trinity Byer. Played with them both at ut, so be interesting to see what they get. She got straight out of college into. Into the Italian second division. She is. She has Italian citizenship as well as American. I don't know how often she played. Could only see one thing that said once, but didn't really look too deep into that. So, yeah, they've signed a couple of fullbacks, which is good. You know, obviously Julia Dorsey's gone, athlete Paloma is gone. So, you know, they've got some. Some shoes to fill the. [01:17:52] Speaker B: What's the coaching situation? [01:17:55] Speaker C: Your guess is as good as mine. [01:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they're looking for a coach and Chris will. Will coach them until they find a coach. [01:18:04] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:04] Speaker A: But when I talk to him, he really does not want to coach. So they will be after one, which. [01:18:09] Speaker B: Means he'll end up coaching. You know, you and I, we all know what's going to happen, right? [01:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I think they need a cent back. Stop me if you've heard this before. Dallas needs a center back, right? So you might see another ad by them, perhaps by the start of the season. [01:18:21] Speaker C: But yeah, I was. I was trying to figure out if La Pamada was a center back, but that's where I saw Palmer described as a complete fullback. So I was like, okay, okay. Still got that holder. [01:18:34] Speaker A: That's a Dorsey replacement. [01:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, well, maybe, maybe, maybe when she's leaving Parmer, she'll see. On her way out, she'll see G Arena and say hello to him as he's on his way in. [01:18:45] Speaker A: Possibly. [01:18:45] Speaker B: Yeah, possibly. All right. The very new and unusual FC Dallas U23s are in the final four of the league of Cups. Yeah, which sounds very made up, but. [01:18:58] Speaker C: What League of Cups? [01:18:59] Speaker B: The League of Cups. [01:18:59] Speaker A: Oh, that's the type of league of. [01:19:02] Speaker B: The cup of Leagues. Wait, the League of Clubs. That's what it is. [01:19:06] Speaker C: Many clubs. [01:19:07] Speaker A: That's right. I'm sorry. [01:19:10] Speaker C: Went. [01:19:10] Speaker B: I went full. Will Ferrell. [01:19:15] Speaker A: What's the name? What's the crown? Let me down. Anyway, the Final Four is being played at Toyota Soccer Center. So you guys, anyone who wants to. You can go see these games. The SA23 is led by my Mandigo and it is. They're taking on Michael Hitchcock's Naba Valley 1839. Hitch's team. So local connections on both. One of his eight teams. Yeah, yeah. He's got like 12 or 15. I don't remember how many Hitchcock owns. [01:19:45] Speaker B: An entire league of teams. [01:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he almost. Well, these. They're on all different leagues too. That's the crazy part. [01:19:49] Speaker B: That's not shady at all. [01:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that'll be fun game. You know, the U23s are like, I. I think there's legitimately somewhere between three to five players on that team that you could see signed as homegrowns and. Or get drafted by. [01:20:02] Speaker B: Is this Zach Lloyd's team? [01:20:03] Speaker A: Team is Zach Lloyd's team. [01:20:05] Speaker B: Okay. [01:20:05] Speaker A: Who is turning out to be one heck of a coach. And I think you have to now shortlist him. Perhaps if you had some sort of coaching opening come up in your organization. I think you'd have to look at him hard because he's continuously coaching up teams and taking them far in leagues and just doing a great job with that club. So the. The first game, the. Against Napa Valley is on the 24th, which is. Is that Thursday at 7:30pm and then the finals on the 26th, which I believe is Saturday at 3:00pm so if I'm looking at the calendar correctly, you can correct me if I did not. [01:20:44] Speaker B: All right. Well, Buzz, where are you exactly? Sir, you're not in this part. Have we talked about where you are yet? [01:20:51] Speaker A: I think I mentioned in passing that I was in Boise. I had a. On my way south. [01:20:56] Speaker B: Have you had any potatoes so far while up there? [01:20:59] Speaker A: I did a couple days ago. Yeah. [01:21:01] Speaker B: How were they made? [01:21:02] Speaker A: Prepared? Oh, it was heated up on a stove with a steak. Just like. [01:21:06] Speaker B: Like a baked potato? [01:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah. On a grill. You know, rats and foil. Put it on the steak and cooked up and then. [01:21:12] Speaker B: Was it delicious? [01:21:13] Speaker A: Delightful. [01:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [01:21:14] Speaker A: I mean, what does. Like, they're everywhere here. [01:21:16] Speaker B: What does Buzz Carrick put on his baked potato? [01:21:21] Speaker A: Whatever they put out as the toppings. I like lots of things, starting with butter, of course, but sour cream or you'll think I'm crazy. Cottage cheese? Whichever one. What, bacos? Yeah. [01:21:32] Speaker B: Cottage cheese on your baked potato? [01:21:34] Speaker A: Why not? Yeah. Cheese like. Like, yeah. All the good things. Whatever they got, I'm piling it on there. [01:21:41] Speaker B: Okay. Gummy bears. [01:21:43] Speaker A: No, don't be silly. Steak. [01:21:45] Speaker C: So what else can you help with your red cheese and baked beans? [01:21:50] Speaker A: Not baked beans, Bacos. [01:21:52] Speaker C: Why not? That's what's made for it. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Baked beans on a potato. [01:21:58] Speaker B: Chocolate chips. [01:21:59] Speaker C: That's what it's made for. [01:22:00] Speaker A: Ridiculous. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Smart fudge. Just see Buzz going, full baked potato. Suicide. [01:22:10] Speaker A: Syrup. Yeah. [01:22:13] Speaker B: Some cinnamon. [01:22:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:17] Speaker B: I love it. All right. What are you back in town, dude, Friday. All right, well, drive safe. [01:22:23] Speaker A: Thanks, man. [01:22:24] Speaker B: Well, hey, I had a great time Saturday night for everybody that said hello. Thank you so much. It was great to see everybody. I got to take a picture with Doc, by the way. It was a great picture. Doc sporting his authentic burn shirt. He looked great in it. So happy to see him. And I got to meet his mom, too, so that was cool. All right, so thanks to everybody making it a great night, and it was good times. Hopefully we'll have more of those this season, and fast. Dan. Thank you very much, sir. Salu. And, Buzz, drive safe. [01:22:59] Speaker A: Thanks. Let me just throw one thing in there. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rags Gardner, one of the original photographers of FC Dallas. [01:23:07] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:23:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. His wife passed. Christine passed away. I mentioned it a couple weeks ago, and he just passed away within the last couple days. You know, if you've seen Early Days burn photographs on our website, it's almost certainly gonna be Rags's photos. He took a lot of pictures and shared them with lots of people, and he was around the team a lot in the early days, and he just passed. So rest in peace. [01:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. That's sad and unfortunate to hear. Thank you for sharing, Buzz. All right, everybody. Well, I think that's gonna do it. We'll have much to talk about on the next episode. There will be in the break, as Buzz mentioned, Buzz somebody. Armin, as a matter of fact, I think is trying to pitch you for a live third degree episode. [01:23:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:23:50] Speaker B: How you feeling about that? Throw it up on the YouTube? [01:23:56] Speaker C: No, no, I'm passing. [01:23:58] Speaker B: Oh, in person. Like, where would we do that? [01:24:01] Speaker A: I don't even know. [01:24:06] Speaker B: Okay. [01:24:07] Speaker A: In McKinney. [01:24:08] Speaker B: No, I'm not driving to McKinney. Can we do it somewhere down here in Texas, in the Dallas area? Do we have to go to Oklahoma? [01:24:15] Speaker C: Yeah, you live like 20 minutes from there. [01:24:18] Speaker B: I'll. Whatever you guys decide, you guys figure it out. If you guys want to do a live episode in person somewhere and invite all the curious, that would be a lot of fun, actually. [01:24:29] Speaker A: Okay. [01:24:29] Speaker C: Curious gathering. You might say it. [01:24:32] Speaker A: Maybe if we could do live. So think about that. [01:24:34] Speaker B: Say that again. [01:24:36] Speaker A: I don't even know if we could do live. I'll say record live. [01:24:38] Speaker C: That's fine. Just don't up and then it won't. [01:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah, you'd have to bring a bunch of a computer and a setup and the mixer. We'd have to get some gear to pull this off. Yeah, I'd rather just put it on. Let's just do it on Riverside, stream it on YouTube. Let everybody watch it at home. [01:24:56] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. [01:24:59] Speaker B: And I can wear a shirt and no pants and nobody would know like you're doing now. Sorry, I digress. [01:25:06] Speaker C: You just stayed up behind the desk. You're good. [01:25:07] Speaker B: I lined up for a dismount and fell off the pommel horse. Now I gotta get back up and dismount again. All right, Dan. Thank you. Yeah, that's it, Buzz. Thank you. [01:25:17] Speaker A: You're welcome. [01:25:17] Speaker B: And thank you. DFW area soccer curious fellows. You. We will speak to you next week one way or the other. Another episode of Third Degree, the podcast unbeaten next week. [01:25:28] Speaker C: No, wait. [01:25:31] Speaker A: Dan, just pommel horse that dismount. 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