Episode 320

July 15, 2025

01:08:44

3rd Degree the Podcast #320

Hosted by

Buzz Carrick Peter Welpton Dan Crooke
3rd Degree the Podcast #320
3rd Degree the Podcast
3rd Degree the Podcast #320

Jul 15 2025 | 01:08:44

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Show Notes

This week on 3rd Degree the Podcast, your hosts - Peter Welpton, Dan Crooke, and Buzz Carrick - try to dig deep to find a positive ray of sunshine for FC Dallas against LAFC. Your trio explains why Lucho Acosta was dropped, why the yellow card may be a big deal, and wonders what is next. Hopefully, Urhoghide will be back soon, but after that, is there much joy in sight?  Maybe the new window will help with one player we know of already coming in. Will there be more?  At least FCD is about to get a banger of a throwback kit.

North Texas SC got wrecked at Dynamo Dos, and Texoma FC ended their unbeaten streak vs the Pines.
Denton wrecked McKinney and FCD U23s won their league. 

Plus, Dallas Trinity started adding some nice pieces for the next season, which is 6 weeks away. 

Music by Pappy Check.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Oh, that's really funny, Peter. Guy's like a joke Bombard pause. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:12] Speaker C: 3Rd degree, the 3rd degree Ned podcast. [00:00:16] Speaker B: 3Rd degree, the third degree Ned podcast. Third degree, the 3rd degree Ned Podcast. [00:00:25] Speaker C: 3Rd degree, the third Degree Nap podcast. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Well, hello there, DFW area soccer curious person. You welcome to another episode of Third Degree, the podcast. This one is 3:20. So there you go. There he is, back from whatever he was doing last week, which was very mysterious, very undercover, very hush hush. It is Dan Crook. Howdy, Dan. [00:00:51] Speaker C: I was watching Megan 2.0. [00:00:55] Speaker B: See, why did you give it up? [00:00:57] Speaker C: Because there's nothing mysterious about that. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Is Megan 2.0 any good? [00:01:01] Speaker C: It was really cool, actually. It was one of those rare times that a sequel wasn't total dog shit. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Did you like the first M3gan movie? [00:01:09] Speaker C: I did, and they actually lent into some of the stupidity of the first one and like the negative reactions towards some of the stupidity of it. [00:01:17] Speaker B: I'm gonna guess there's an opening for omega 3.0. [00:01:21] Speaker C: Oh, 100%. [00:01:22] Speaker B: Okay. Excellent. So is it. How many thumbs up do you give Megan 2.0? [00:01:26] Speaker C: Well, I only have 2.0 thumbs, so. 2.0 thumbs. [00:01:30] Speaker B: All right, there's you. A Dan Crook movie review. His favorite hit of the year, Megan 2.0. [00:01:38] Speaker C: I wouldn't say that. [00:01:39] Speaker B: It was just fun. Okay. All right, well, fun movies are fun. Your hero, my hero, everybody's hero. Editor, founder of third degree.net and the original soccer influencer himself. Here he is, Buzz Carrick. Welcome, Buzz. [00:01:52] Speaker A: Peter, I'm so pleased to learn today that this podcast ranks below Megan 2.0 on Dan Crook's scale of importance. [00:01:59] Speaker C: I also hadn't seen the game before, so it's kind of a waste of time me being there. I could have talked about the Taxoma game and that was really it. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Dan was busy watching a doll kick that. Kick the shit out of people. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:15] Speaker C: Another doll. [00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:17] Speaker B: Doll on doll violence. [00:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah, 2.0. Peter Two Dolls. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Is there like a Ken 2.0 that she beats up in the movie? [00:02:25] Speaker C: I don't remember what the other one was called. [00:02:26] Speaker A: If it was Chucky, I might have been in for it. [00:02:29] Speaker C: Chucky. That would be cool. Chucky and Leprechaun, maybe. [00:02:32] Speaker A: Megan. Yeah. [00:02:35] Speaker C: That is. You can tell the. The sucker's terrible. And this is. [00:02:39] Speaker B: This is fair. You know, I feel like our job, third degree is to. What is it? What is moderate? The level of ups and downs of the curious when it comes to football Club Dallas. Like, when it gets too high, we got to stamp that down a little bit. We got to tamp down the overexcitement. And when they're really, really low, I feel like it's our job to pick people back up because no matter how bad it feels like it's never really as bad. I don't know, maybe it is that bad, Buzz. I don't. They go to LA, they lose comprehensively at LAFC 2. Nothing. Nothing looks good. And by the looks of your discord over the course of the last eight hours, you would think this club is about to just go out of business, flat out, all the way around, based on how the mood and attitude and the level of just digging into how bad it is going on in your discord has hit his hit. Kind of some new lows, Buzz. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah. To be fair, I think if you look at the product that was on display this weekend against lafc, you would be unsurprised to find that those lows were being felt by people, you know, on the other side of the coin. You have to remember that their best defender, Sasa Ira Gide, was not playing their DP10. Lucho Casa doesn't start that causes all kinds of kerfuffles up front. You know, they got Romero coming off of an injury who's back to starting. So like, you know, like this team is just as bad as it was that. I think the trouble was that for me, I watched this game and for the first 15 minutes I was just sitting there thinking about the starting 11 from this game and I was thinking to myself, is there a single player in the Dallas 11 that would start for LAFC? And even Martin Paz, who had an excellent game was terrific. I don't know that if he starts over Loris. Loris has got a huge resume. [00:04:43] Speaker B: The only one I can come up. Yeah, that is Larisse. [00:04:46] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I'm not French. The the only one that could come up with those. I think. I think Patter Musa would start over the homegrown nine that they have or does who's a nice young player, don't get me wrong, but I think Patter Musa would start over him. So that would be the only one that I could come up with. I don't think any other guy in the Dallas 11 would start for the other team. And so. But this is not first place best in the league lafc. This is sixth place lafc. Now they're coming off of some champion cups and all these other distractions and some injuries and various things like that, but nonetheless, like you're comprehensively outmanned across the board in this particular game because you're missing two or three of your very best players. It wouldn't be as bad, of course, if you had some of those guys back, but you didn't. And so they just got. At no point were they anywhere even in the game. It was just, it was, the whole game was just try to not get destroyed, you know, and the fact that Martin Paws had a really nice game, he probably kept them from getting destroyed by saying that. [00:05:40] Speaker B: I get the sense that you feel like in other games there would be Dallas players that would be another team started. I can't generally say that you could go game by game and say Dallas would have, I mean, Musa probably starts for a lot of teams in mls and maybe even Paul, not all. Yeah, but who else in this team would start for pretty much any other MLS team in the league? And if you tell me Lucho Acosta, I'm saying 2025. Lucho Acosta has been pretty poor, sure. [00:06:10] Speaker A: But there's probably, you know, a third of the teams in the league that he would still get on the field for, you know, based on, based on. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Based on reputation or based on current form. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Reputation mostly, and probably what you would see in training. But you know, there are teams worse than Dallas in the standings, right? A couple, yeah. St. Louis, St. Louis, LA Galaxy, like Kansas City up until very recently. Like, I'm just saying that, like, I think would start for quite a few teams in this league, you know, fair, you know, and they have some other guys that like, if they were in certain teams, I think might get looks. You know, there are other bad teams in this league. You know, I, I, I. It's not worth going through every single team in the league and saying like, oh, this guy would be on that team, this guy will be on that team. But you know, there's, there would be people that would be interested in Logan Farrington, there'd be people who have interested in Shock Moore. I think Anderson, Julio would probably start for a lot of teams. You know, again, he's not going to start for lafc. Not that he was playing, but if he had, he's not going to get it out on their field in front of Buaga. I mean, you know, Buanga. Excuse me, I can say that currently. But you know, this is actually really. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Interesting Buzz because, you know, you went through and you just named several guys that you think could start for other MLS teams. So why is it Dallas is so bad if they actually have a collect a small group of guys that could in theory individually play a start for other teams in this league. Why? I mean, just, I just want to point something out. Somebody tweeted out the guy Sounder by heart guy, Jeremiah tweeted out that I guess the beginning of April is when the Sounders went from being really bad to kind of going on an upturn for their season. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:52] Speaker B: Somewhere at the beginning of April. And he happened to say they've collected the second most points in the league since that that time and they've in their record. And so I went back and looked in that same amount of time, Dallas has collected the second lowest number of points in the league. [00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah, well, since ape. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Since the beginning of April. [00:08:12] Speaker A: You know, a lot of this particularly bad Dallas play coincides with your D day being out. I mean, look, the dude is a band aid, he helps a lot in the back, but the, the bottom line is that FC Dallas is talent deficient compared to these, these much better teams in the league. You know, they just don't have enough. They have three or four guys that would be in competition. Other teams that are legit, like this is an MLS starter grade player or even maybe slightly better than average starter grade player, but then they just have five or six guys that shouldn't be starting that. They should be backup pieces or they should be like, look at the two center backs that started this last game. Neither one of those guys has a business being a starter in MLS at this point. They're journeyman veteran backups. Shaq Moore hasn't been playing like a starter. Marco Farfan hasn't been playing like a starter. Ramiro Kaik, neither one of those guys has been playing like they deserve to be a starter. Maybe Sebastian Legette does. He does about 80% of the time. He looks like a guy who's legitimately competing in MLS and is capable of being at that level of play. Paxton is if he's not healthy. But I mean, who knows if we'll ever see that guy again. Officially, not unofficially, I'm worried. Officially he's still on the team, you know, so other than Moussa, other than Logan and Anderson, Julio and you know, that's about it. You have five or six guys that are legitimately first line MLS players and then you have a bunch of guys that aren't. And until you have a whole 11 and maybe even past that of guys that could compete to be real legitimate starters, you're not going to get compete in the top half of this league. [00:09:35] Speaker B: So is there a story behind Lucho Acosta not starting this game. Is it a rest thing? Is it a. [00:09:41] Speaker A: It's not rest. He was. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Cue the dramatic sound effect. [00:09:46] Speaker A: Yeah. According to my information, he was dropped for an over excessive amount of tardiness of late and may have actually been stripped of his captaincy. So. [00:10:01] Speaker B: Whoa. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that one. I'm. I'm less sure about the captaincy thing, but that is a thing that's floating around out there. I'm more sure about the being dropped for the tardiness thing for sure. Being a thing, you know, not in the doghouse enough that he didn't still get into the game. But, you know, I knew earlier that day he wasn't going to start and. And that's the reason why. So this is definitely not just a. We're resting him. And I think if you listen to the broadcast, you could hear and the commentators of them saying, like, maybe it's not right. Rest. Like they were hinting around that there's something else going on and that's something else going on. And I think you can look at. I think you can't help but question. I cannot help a question that Acosta maybe instigated a little bit into getting himself a yellow card so that they would now not have him for the San Jose game. And I wonder, I can't help but wonder if this is sort of going to be a tipping point one way or another. We know that Acosta has worn out his welcome other places. Has he reached a point already where that's beginning to happen? I don't think you can. How can you not question that? Well, no. [00:11:02] Speaker B: I mean, yes, he absolutely has that track record, but to be doing it halfway through your first season with a club would be unbelievably embarrassing. [00:11:11] Speaker A: It would be. But this wasn't. This wasn't a rest and rotation drop. This was a drop for. Cause, you know, off field. Cause. Because, you know, the thing that led me to believe that there's a way back from it was that Quill stuck with the same tactic. Like, if he really was like, oh, Costa's done here, he would change the formation because there would be other things that would work better because, like, they play this way because of Acosta, and perhaps partially a little bit because of Romero, but mostly because of Acosta. So the fact that he stuck with that shape leads me to think that he was planning to bring him back for the San Jose game. And then here we go with the cost of getting that yippee little yellow card over in the corner. And granted, the ref was a little bit Quick to pull it. But if you're on a. If you're on the verge of a game suspension for yellow card, why would you not be zipping your mouth and walking away from the ref every time you had a chance to try and get through the game on good graces, rather than getting over there and getting involved in stuff and getting that yellow card and being like, oh, sorry, guys. You know how players are at that level. Sometimes there are guys that will orchestrate cards and orchestrate suspensions to prove a point. I'll go back to retro Ziegler. When he told the world he got Covid exposed and didn't let the team handle that. And just to prove a point that. That took him out of the game. And he was trying to prove a point that, like, look how bad you are without me. And of course, the team never played him again, so. And he was gone shortly after, but, you know, it happens. So is that on the list? Oh, I'm sure it's on the list. I mean, it better be on the list. [00:12:34] Speaker B: I don't. [00:12:34] Speaker A: It's ought to be. [00:12:36] Speaker B: I don't think that is on the list. I think we're missing that one. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Well, that's a huge oversight on. [00:12:43] Speaker B: We need to review that, and if it's not, it needs to be submitted for consideration. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Well, you remember the story. He was trying to prove a point that. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Oh, I know that. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Because he wanted. He wanted a new contract. He wasn't getting it. And he was like, oh, you think I'm. You think Bresson is better than me? Watch this. And so. Oh, world, hello. [00:13:00] Speaker B: I got exposed to Covid. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So, okay, sit over there for a bit. And there were like, six games left or something in the season, and he never. So my memory is he never played again. So, yeah, that should be on the list. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Dan, did you go see Superman this weekend instead of watch the game? [00:13:20] Speaker C: Nah, nah, I can careless about that. I. [00:13:23] Speaker B: It's a great movie, man. [00:13:25] Speaker C: I gotta be honest. I. I was out all day. I got home in time. Just in time, actually, no. Five minutes after kickoff. That. That game was bad enough that I just zoned out. And the. The bits that. That I was, like, totally coherent for. I was like, I am not going back to watch the rest of this. This is terrible. [00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It is weird, Buzz. And I do think there's a. A continuation of the conversation we were having last week about Eric Quill's culpability and all of this. I know a lot of people love to focus on Sonata and the front office and how badly this roster is constructed. And I don't disagree. I mean, I think all of that is, you know, so predictably bad. And. And we've been talking about this all season. We were worried about it before the season. You know, watching this team play without a Costa when it. Even when they have a cost isn't very good. But it looked a lot like the team that I thought this team would look like before they signed Acosta. Because, remember, we were all talking wooden spoon stuff back before the Costa thing, and that's what this team looked like mostly during the LAFC game. And. And I. I don't know, man. I just. There's something about this team's inability to do some basic stuff when they have the ball that I can't just simply chalk up to the quality of the roster and not try to apply it to how this team is being managed and led on the field by Quill. And. And I just. I'm really concerned about. Is it. I. I do. I do wonder if this job is bigger than him. [00:15:07] Speaker A: I don't know. I will say that there's not really much defending can be done of what's happened so far in terms of him and the job. You know, I advocated that he would be a good hire. I think of the pool. We've said this many times before. Other people that will take this job. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Sure. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Other pool candidates. I think he was still a pretty good choice. But I can't point anything and say, like, look at what he's doing. That makes you think there's excitement ahead. I didn't think the resiliency, the beginning of the year when they were able to get points on the road was Showed something. Showed some leadership qualities. And the fact that people were sort of rallying around him, his team was, but that hasn't continued. And the fact that he couldn't do that kind of thing at home, those raised serious questions. You know, I don't. I think that he's got such a shorthanded roster that he doesn't have very many choices to make. You know, like later when we talk about the next game, we'll go through the lineup and there really isn't, like, a lot of real contention happening. But on the other hand, like, you know, he could be embracing the play, the kids. You know, he could be. You know, he could be trying other things perhaps, you know, but if he. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Does that buzz, he's essentially just giving up on the season. [00:16:10] Speaker A: He is. And I think that, like, given the money they spent on Acosta, he pretty much was forced into trying to make it work with him as much as possible. You know, you gotta, you got a guy, a striker you paid 10 million for, you got a playmaker you paid 5 million for, you got this new center back that looks really nice. You got, yeah, there were. Anderson Hu looked like a nice addition, you know, like they should have been able to take, I thought, a step forward over last season and they haven't, you know, and whether it's Quill's fault or whether it's, there are other things going wrong that he hasn't solved or whatever, you know, you can't, I don't think you can defend like, well, look at what a great job he's doing. And like if, if he gets, if tomorrow this podcast drafts and an hour later it turns out he's fired, it'll be like, you know what? I'm not, I'm not surprised. But at the same time that they hold onto him all year because he's in the first year of a deal or whatever, but that won't surprise me either. So like, I'm not going to certainly advocate for the guy to be dismissed, but I can't, I can't say that like, oh, look at all these amazing things he's doing because I don't, I don't think he can play that either. [00:17:05] Speaker B: Where do you fall on the spectrum of whose fault it is, Dano? [00:17:09] Speaker C: It's a very sharing, caring situation, isn't it? I think the teams expected several coaches in a row to work miracles with not a whole lot. And several coaches in a row have not worked miracles in, in any one case. FC Dallas kind of fell on its luck with Oscar Pereira, hoped to repeat the magic. But I, I, yeah, I don't know, do I see things that cruel? Does that, you know, even if he had the ideal situation in the roster wouldn't be optimal. Sure. Has he had that opportunity though? No, it's, it becomes a little bit difficult. I just think that there's a lot of areas in that team that need changing. Hiring a first year coach doesn't necessarily fix them. They're not as untouchable. I think you've got a, you've got a performance staff that allowed Paxton, Palmerco and Asazi or agide to be heavily overused and injured as a result. That's. That, that for me feels like a pretty unforgivable thing that, that actually could be changed realistically. So, yeah, where to begin doesn't necessarily start or end with Quill. [00:18:40] Speaker B: So how do we square the Dallas situation with like San Diego, an expansion team that hired a guy that had never coached a professional team before and Mikey Varys, who by the way, was on your staff two coaches ago and now they're sitting atop the table and playing some really interesting and fun to watch football. What is the difference between those two situations? [00:19:07] Speaker C: They support him well, one of the. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Biggest differences is that they didn't. FC Dallas didn't hit on all their dps this time like San Diego's dp, Their main one is phenomenal and they've done some really good work with their roster. SC Dallas try to swing at Lucio Costa and it hasn't worked. It's like it's not working with the coach, it's not working on the field, it's not working with Peter Musa. You know, he's got one assist. I don't think it is. So, like, you know, you've got to get those signings right. You know, will they be able to admit perhaps that they've made a mistake? Do they think that the mistake is in a different place than Acosta? They think the mistakes in the coach. Do they even see a mistake? You know, I don't know what to tell you other than like they're short of DP. They only have two instead of three because they went with the four U22 models and. And they have a horrific record on U22 signings. And none of them have panned out. Like the most panned out one is Patricson Delgado, which is not exactly a home run. Right. Giovanni showed a little bit of signs of something before he blew out the same E sale twice. You know, you just cannot perform and compete in this league without taking advantage of all the roster mechanics to their fullest extent. And they have not done that. And you can look at any team that's doing really well that does do that. Miami does that. San Diego clearly has done that. Generally speaking, Seattle does that really well. You know, these are teams that get those mechanics right. And if you don't get them right, you're going to stink. And Dallas has missed on Acosta for whatever reason. Whoever's fault you want to blame it on, we all thought it was seemed like a good idea. I'm not going to claim that we all sold it was everybody was stupid because it seemed like a good idea, but it hasn't worked. So admit you made a mistake and fix it one way or the other. Do something, change it. Don't just wallow in. But he got like a three Year deal now. I mean, like, you're just going to ride this out, like, being terrible, figure something out, change it up, trade him in the window. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Maybe there's an MLS team that would love to have Lucho Acosta for their playoff. [00:21:04] Speaker A: I mean, clearly it's not working. So if you think that a cost is the answer, then the coach isn't working. Change that. Whatever, whatever one it is you've decided as an organization this is not working, change it. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Yeah. First off, getting rid of Eric Quill scares the hell out of me. Because then you begin to ask the question, who are they going to replace him with? [00:21:26] Speaker A: Who are you going to get? [00:21:27] Speaker B: I mean, seriously, like, well, no. [00:21:31] Speaker A: No one, like a curtain or Arena's got a job, but an Arena. None of those guys are going to come here and work for Sonata. The only way those guys will come here is if they get all the authority. And that includes, by the way, in my opinion, they're not going to come here for Dan Hunt. Because Dan Hunt is down the hallway and checks in every single day. And it's one of the most involved, day after day after day owners in the league, if not the most involved day after day after day. He wants to get in there. He wants to be involved. He wants to be part of the committee, right? So, like, even if they fired Zenana, who would a Bruce arena come here to work for Dan Hunt, when Dan is going to be there looking over his shoulder all the time and watching what he's right now? You know what I mean? Like, I don't think they would. So who you're going to get is going to be the list of people that already work here. It's going to be Gall or Lucine or Michelle, you know, maybe somebody that used to play here. I don't know. You know, it'll be the same short list of names that we go over every year that everyone always says, why do you guys always pick those stupid names? Because that's who they hire, man. And it'll be the same thing if they change Quill. So I don't know that like, that is worth doing honestly after six months. I mean, what. What's be the point? [00:22:39] Speaker B: Oh, I would be 100 shocked if they fired Quill before the end of the season. In fact, I'll be shocked if they fire him at the end of the season. [00:22:47] Speaker A: I mean, the Mass says you're right. But at the same point, like, given the record at this point, I'd be like, okay, whatever, you know, I don't think it's a good idea to only Give a guy 6 months investment in him as a coach before you can. But they do lots of things I think are bad ideas. So a different bad idea doesn't. Wouldn't surprise me. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Well, I'm going to do two things. First off, Matt Doyle, who I don't necessarily want to make the barometer of the national media and his league recaps and rankings put FC Dallas not much fun, not much fight, not very good. Which I think isn't off base. [00:23:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:27] Speaker B: But I also want to make sure I do what I said at the beginning of this, which I feel like part of our job is to kind of like moderate everybody's misery in this. In that I. How do I say this without. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Feeling. [00:23:42] Speaker B: I'm placating people, but this is a bad moment. But that the team isn't really that far out of potentially a playoff position. It's not like they're out of the playoffs. They could still. It's easier to make the playoffs than not make the playoffs and so that could still happen this season. They just need a couple of things to go their way in terms of healthy players and just kind of getting some of the connections to click more consistently with the ball. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Iraqi is back and if he can stay healthy, you know that, that really will do wonders for the defense. Shock Moore looks better. Far Fame looks better. Everybody looks better. I looks better when that guy's in there. Now granted we want two center backs like that, but what we'll take one. You know, if. If Romero can and Kai can put together some sort of midfield working six situation that is. Is. Is on top of itself. If Delgado can play like when good Delgado, not bad Delgado. You can't. You never shown you're going to get a game to game, but when you get the good one, it's pretty good. You know, if Pax and Miracle his knee back together and actually shows up and plays, that'd be great. You know, if the new wing that's coming is any good, I still think they're going to add two or three more pieces in this window. So. [00:24:54] Speaker B: All right, I'm going to ask you both this, but I'm going to ask Dan first. Dan, if everybody's healthy on this current roster and you can pick from any of the current roster what is your starting 11 and the formation they play. He's so mad at me for asking him this question first. Look at him. [00:25:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Spell aborigine. Aborigine. [00:25:19] Speaker C: No. [00:25:21] Speaker B: He looks like he's like he's. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Trying to spelling bee obviously there's always that lean towards a 4:2, 3:1 with just about everything. Key part for me is always going to be midfield. You don't have a single pivot option. Even if everyone's fit. You know it is a kaik. Plus you know whether it's defensively having Ramirez experience, whoever is having legit's passing range. Paxton Palmer calls passing around. So you've you no matter what you're a bit limited by your midfield options. You've obviously only got one real wing in the team. Bernie hasn't. Hasn't been doing a ton. Pedrinho is such an odd individual. His game suits certain opposition. Certain games I other games he might as well be playing USO league too. But yeah pa your center backs Irigida and probably Lawless. Honestly at this point far fan as. As horrendous as he's been this year is he's your best left back. Nolan's not really got the. The pace for it. As good as his passing Rangers as good as he's played at times. Jack Moyes obviously probably the the one one of the few names in pen and that's not a wonderful option. Anderson Julio on the on one wing on the other. I don't even know who you'd go for Lucho, you know, whether or not he gels with that team. Having him in. In a best 11 would make sense just for his individual talent that can pull a rabbit out of his arse occasionally and obviously permission up front. Okay, does that answer it does. [00:27:40] Speaker B: It's a fast. I mean I, I do find it very interesting because amongst this roster it's hard to kind of figure out how you. Even when you've got all the pieces, it's hard to go wait, how do all these pieces in the ideal situation work together? Based on what we know now halfway through the season. [00:27:59] Speaker C: I think one thing is we. For years and years we've been blessed with this like wonderful start to the season where you get to see the best 11 healthy and then. And some tweaks to the formation to, to this the style to. To the. The selection itself. We haven't had that. It's just been bad. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Well, maybe that's the point. Buzz, you gotta. You got a different answer to Yes, I do. [00:28:29] Speaker A: If it's me making these decisions, I don't think that this team can. Can compete for at the top of the table like compete for a championship for two or three seasons of development. Given the way that it does business. They can't just buy their way to the top. The only way they're going to get there is if they develop some players. So forget about trying to make the playoffs this season. Who cares? You need to pick out the three or four kids that you think are really important. You just try and play them as much as possible. Nolan needs to play as much as possible. Whichever position you think is his position, you play them a bunch. You try and get Diego Garcia in as much as possible. You need to pick out whatever the next couple of guys coming along are. Now, maybe they can't start right now, but Kaik needs to play as much as possible. You paid $4 million for him, right? You need to like, if Newman hadn't blown his knee out, I would say play him every game over Shaq Moore. Like you need to develop something in the neighborhood of four or five legit top line MLS talents out of your pool of kids. You need your next generation of Tanner, Paxton, Jesus, Pepe, you define that generation. That's the only way you're going to win a championship with this club, with this team, the way it does business now. So you forget this season, play those guys, Diego Garcia's, maybe even play more Bernie. I don't think Bernie's got it, but play more Bernie. You know, I mean, like, you have to keep the guys that you. This means dumping Acosta. You keep the guys that are under the age of 30, you probably dump legit. You know, you keep the guys that like can hang around for a two or three year cycle. So that's if he'll do it. That's Musa, that's ir, that's Paws. You know, maybe it's Shaq Moore, but I'm not a big believer in the defensive qualities of his game. You know, I just don't think that sitting around and playing a bunch of vets and scraping your way into the ninth place does jack shit for you in terms of actually winning anything. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah, go ahead, Dan. [00:30:25] Speaker C: Sorry, I know we're kind of talking best 11 right now, but man, keyboard dump in the off season is going to be epic. [00:30:32] Speaker A: Could be legit. That's a ways away though. [00:30:34] Speaker C: It's just gonna be. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I buzz, I. I like your answer because it's a very honest and like reality check answer, but work with me here just under a hypothetical team, you know, look, they didn't add, they didn't go out and get Uruguay and Lucho Costa and Julio Anderson and Shaq Moore. [00:30:55] Speaker A: So give you a play for now. [00:30:57] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I mean, let's Say, look, they're only however many points out of a playoff spot, and that's the goal. You got all your players. Who are you starting and what formation are you playing? [00:31:08] Speaker A: Okay? So if you're gonna maximize this season, and I'm talking about just purely talent wise, I'm not talking about some crazy other stuff we don't know about. I'm talking about talent that means maximizing Lucha Casa. In order to do that, you got. I didn't think you need to play 3, 5, 2. So in this window, you go out, you get another center back, and you start Oz and this new center back and probably Alvaro, because of his ranginess. So you would have. I don't know what kind of your third player you'd get was. I mean, if you have to, you go with Ibiaga, that's fine. But you would have Oz and Alvara both, who's rangy as hell. They could cover Silent Asylum. Shack Moore would make a perfectly functional wing back on the right. Big Mountain kind of left would be a problem. You'd have to go with some sort of mix of, you know, far fan or Bernie or something and try and figure something out there or try something really weird, like maybe like a guy that has. It's really rangy, like a Delgado who could get up and down or something like that. Because Delgado can really move and cover ground when he is of the mind. And if you're asking him to play wing back, he might be able to actually do it out there on that side. And then you would have Lucho as your. Your 10, and you have your double pivot, you know, which would be Kaik and probably Ramiro, but you could probably do Kaik in something like legit, actually, as a, you know, your double pivot, your windshield wipers in front of your back. Three, you know, because you would have, as I said, you would have Shaq Moore out wide and probably Delgado maybe is my best thought at this moment on the left. And then you could have Musa and Anderson, Julio up top as your two strikers with. With La Costa behind them. And you could bring in Logan Farrington for one of those guys to the other one whenever you needed a break or, you know, or something like with that. So to me, that's the way you maximize the current run with Lucho Acosta, because that way Lucha's in. Lucho's in that triangle. But then because you have a double behind him in A. In a 3, 5, 2. And the two wide players, you have a solid four behind Lucho. And it Won't matter that he doesn't have enough defense, you know, So I think that's the way I would try and do it if I thought that that was really important. But, you know, that's. That's not my choice. That's, you know, that's the hand on force. If I have to try and make the playoffs this year is play that way, because that's the only way I can think of to make a cost of work. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:16] Speaker C: PTSD from a back three. [00:33:19] Speaker A: I know, I know. It really would be really be incumbent on getting another Cinemac in the window. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:25] Speaker A: You know, but they went out and. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Got another guy that's at least somewhere in the ballpark of Uruguay. I think you'd feel a lot better about that. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:33:33] Speaker B: But man, I. Who. I mean, who's got a lot of faith in that? All right. Speaking of that, there is word that there is a player incoming. Of course, Inter Miami is out there talking about getting an Argentinian International World cup winner to add to their collection. Dallas is shopping around in the Danish second division, approving my point, by the. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Way, about the way they do business now, not winning a title. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Don Dietzen, Lucius, a Haitian player who is playing for Odonance in the. [00:34:04] Speaker A: I think Deetson is his last name. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Well, I was looking. Yeah, so I was looking at the. At different things, and I think Lucius may be a nickname. [00:34:15] Speaker C: Oh, the Gold Cop. They just called him Don Lucius. [00:34:19] Speaker A: There you go. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Oh, okay. So maybe Lucius is his last name and Dietzen is his middle. Who knows? [00:34:24] Speaker A: So who knows? [00:34:24] Speaker B: Anyway, so Don Deeds and Lucius. And I think he scored against the United States in that. In that Gold cup game in Arlington. Yeah, in Arlington. And was game so boring, I don't even remember it. And I was there in person. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we joked that he. They signed him because Dan, I was at the game and saw him. [00:34:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. It sounds like that's totally plausible. [00:34:46] Speaker A: I know. [00:34:50] Speaker B: He's a winger. I mean, you know, so let's compare and contrast the second Danish division to the Israeli first Division. Go. This is. It's like, okay, now we got another guy. I mean, I don't mean. I don't like judging players before we actually see them, but. [00:35:08] Speaker A: Well, I said to somebody today that. Or I think it was sitting on Twitter that said, what can you tell him about it? Look, every. Everybody that Dallas is willing to sign comes with a red flag. There's always something right there from the second division. Oz is from the French second division. Look how great he is. So, like, just Dana, Second division alone doesn't bother me that much. You find guys sometimes in places like this, but it's. It's always just some guy you've never heard of because he scored for Haiti against the United States, so they've signed him or he played in the second, you know, it's like it's never a slam dunk. Like we're getting Aaron Long, fantastic, great signing, you know what I mean? It's never like even like Peter Musa where you're like, he doesn't start for the team. He's with it Benfica. He hasn't started for Benfica. Why would you want that guy? But he's been pretty solid. So you know, there's never, it's never a slam dunk. So we'll reserve. I'm going to try and reserve until we see him, you know, how's he going to look? At least he's a left footed guy that has value over being a right footed guy because it's more rare obviously. So like you'll be able to flip flop him sides whether you want to go a guy cutting in or a skid foot or crossing, you know, whatever you want to do. So. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Well, since going over to the Danish leagues, he's played on two teams started in 2019. He's played in 100, 235 games and hit 35 goals or 34 goals apparently. [00:36:25] Speaker A: A US citizen by the way, which is not. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah, he does have US citizenship, which obviously is a bonus as well because he doesn't take up an international slot and probably helps avoid any of the Haitian immigration, whatever that is at the airport. [00:36:40] Speaker A: You got to go through customs stuff. [00:36:42] Speaker B: You got to go. [00:36:42] Speaker A: He's 24 years old, that's like that, you know, he's that give him his Leo choose replacement basically, you know, and my understanding was that he traveled into the estates today, that he got here today. So hopefully he's going to clear his physical in the next day or two and then we'll see the sounding announced. You know, they can't. If he was under contract he. They won't actually be able to add him until the window which is the. What do we say it was the 24th. So 10 more days. But the timing's about right for him to come in and you know, he'll have to leave to get. No, he doesn't need a visa. Never mind. [00:37:12] Speaker B: No, he doesn't need to walk right into play. [00:37:14] Speaker A: So you know, you can bring him in and let him run around a bit, you know, get him ready. [00:37:18] Speaker B: So So I do think the, The. Since this is the beginning of the window and we talked about last week about giving them this window to kind of. Before we really begin to judge how this season is going to play out, there is a level of. We've talked about this, like a demonstration of ambition. And this is one of those deals where you could understand why Dallas fans or fans of the club look at this and go, okay, this really. I mean, this doesn't. Yeah, you're. You're. You're replacing Leo Chu, who was a total nothing for this club. We got to talk about that introduction video from the Portuguese team. He's going to. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Small hat. Yeah. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Yeah. That seems like a lot of effort for probably what's going to end up being very little in return. But anyway. But the, The. It's. I think this is the other problem with the club at this particular moment is that it's these types of signings they've been making over the last few years that just signals so little ambition. [00:38:19] Speaker A: Yep. They. They're constantly looking for a buy low, sell high. It's always. There's always. Always get guys that are undervalued so that they can play them and then have them be overvalued. [00:38:30] Speaker B: Well, they did. Okay. But, but I. Yes, but I, But I also want to say they did go out and get Peter Musa. They spent a lot of money to get Peter Musa. That was a lot of money. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Sure. But I, I bet if you look at him, though, you'd think, oh, he wasn't starting for his club. Bring him here. He's a start for his club. We think we can flip him quick if we possibly, you know. Yeah, no doubt that was part of the thought process. [00:38:49] Speaker B: At 1000%, this is a club that is built on bringing players in that they can sell at a profit. [00:38:55] Speaker A: But there's a difference between partnership part. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yes, but don't. I mean. But spending $10 million is still spending $10 million. Spending 5 million to get Lucha Acosta. Whatever. Do we know what they spent to get Uruguay? [00:39:08] Speaker C: I mean, the word was like 4 million. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Okay. And they spent 4 million to go get Kaik. [00:39:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:39:14] Speaker B: I don't know why, but they did. So we got to still give them credit for it. Doesn't mean it would make sense. But they did. So it's not like they. My point being is it's not like they don't make money spending signings. It's just that the signings they make are not ones that necessarily spin under anybody's head. Musa, did we all were pretty impressed by the Musa signing. The Lucha Acosta signing at the time seemed like a no brainer and it was a no win situation because even if we at the time could have predicted this is how it would have turned out. There's no way you don't sign Lucha Acosta if he's available to you when you're already talking about being a wooden spoon team. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's pretty fair. [00:39:50] Speaker B: But then again, now you, now the team is in this situation and playing poorly. You go out and get a guy from the Danish second division as a winger and I, I, I still don't think that's going to light anybody's hair on fire. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Your giddy was 2.5 million. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Does that make any sense, guys? [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with you. I just. No, no, no. I should I not in agreement I have anything to say? It's an audio show. I should say. Yes, you're totally correct, Peter. Yeah, I 100% agree with what you said there. [00:40:17] Speaker C: All right, one thing, I mean, it doesn't necessarily change anything, but, you know, he, he was playing first division, OB got relegated, they then immediately won the league. So I mean, calling him a second division Danish player is, you know, fair. Half the story. Okay, fair enough, but still not the most inspiring league. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Anyway, he does have eight goals and 22 caps for Haiti, which is not nothing. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Do we know how much they're spending to get him? [00:40:53] Speaker A: The report said 1 million base with up to 4 million incentive euros. And this modern market, like 1 million for a winger is not very much money. So, you know, 4 million is obviously what they're willing to pay these days if they think they really got something. [00:41:06] Speaker B: Well, we'll have to go see if anybody has been watching the Danish League in the last few years that can report back on. [00:41:12] Speaker C: Well, well put a couple of things in discord that people in Denmark are laughing. The FC Dallas would pay a penny for him, so that's encouraging. Okay, all right. [00:41:27] Speaker B: So, okay, well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Like, I always feel bad prejudging a guy. Although it's fun sometimes they show up and they kick ass. We were all very, very concerned about the qualities of Uruguay Day. And now we all can't, we all can't push ourselves out of the way to go over and say, you know, shake the dude's hand. So, you know, it's just, it's just a, it's a bad situation all the way around in terms of the season and I don't know how it gets better. And I feel bad because I felt like the whole point of this was to lift everybody's spirits, but we're not doing a very good job. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Well, honestly, I don't know that there's a lot to lift you with right now. You know, we need to see some actions. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Well, everybody can go get their kick ass Dallas Burn third jersey this week. [00:42:10] Speaker C: Oh, yes. The one good thing. [00:42:13] Speaker B: I'm gonna. I'm gonna go ahead and throw the Hail Mary of kit talk right here. Just. [00:42:20] Speaker C: It's not gonna drive anyone off. It's the only good thing. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. So, Dan, why don't you fill everybody in on what the latest is about the new shirt, when they can get it and any of the new details that you may have acquired about it. [00:42:36] Speaker C: Yes. So goes on sale on Wednesday, I believe. Team store opens at 10 be soccer 90. Since the. The actual team, so I think is only during game days. Now there'll be the. There'll be a replica version, an authentic version. For full disclosure, I, um, went up to Frisco in the week and sat down with Tim Henning, the VP of merchandising, for a story that will come out after the jersey is released. But the, the best part of it is I got to see it up close. I got to touch it. And it. The photos don't do it any justice. It is stunning. Absolutely stunning. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker B: What's your best. What's your favorite feature about it? [00:43:34] Speaker C: It's stupid, but the. The burn word mark on the front is in this like 3D print vinyl that mimics the. The way that sponsors and word marks on jerseys used to be in that kind of foam felt stuff. The 3D stuff that. Yeah, exactly. You know, the stuff that you put it in the washing machine and it of kind came out covered in lint, but yeah, it's. It's like a. It's a really nice 3D detail. The logos are embroidered. They are also like very. They're in a 3D style. Kind of like how baseball caps are sometimes. That. That real 3D embroidery where they put the little foam tube in the middle of it. I. I think it's. It's just stunning. And best of all, that is 100% wasabi. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Nice. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Whoa. So they did go with the green and not yellow or gold or anything like that. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they're calling it gold, but it's green. It's. It's true. Wasabi. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Well, you know, it's funny. Back in the 98 jersey, everybody see, this is how I Remember this now from back in the day was that when that shirt came out, it was gold. But if you look at that shirt in person, you can, I mean you, it's almost hard to tell if Nike at the time just couldn't print that green on that color at the time. And it looks gold, but it's supposed to be the asparagus wasabi guacamole green and it just didn't turn out that way. So to find out that this is actually. You can look at it and go, okay, this is the green from the original jerseys. That is amazingly exciting news. [00:45:18] Speaker C: There is actually a little bit of gold on the jersey on, on the burn logo. So you can definitely see a contrast to it. But yeah, it's, it's stunning. It's, it's amazing. It's. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Do we know what the, do we know what the prices for the two versions are going to be? [00:45:34] Speaker C: I think it's like 90 for the replica and authentics run at like 135 something around there. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Crackers. Does the authentic come with patches and everything on it? [00:45:47] Speaker C: The one I saw did not. Okay. [00:45:51] Speaker A: Usually add ons at soccer 90 if you want them. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Is the ad at the bottom of the back of the shirt? [00:45:56] Speaker C: There's children's. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Children's. Interesting. [00:45:59] Speaker C: Wasabi. [00:46:01] Speaker B: And is the back of the shirt just straight black? It doesn't have the lines on it, does it? [00:46:05] Speaker C: Think so? Yeah, I think it was just plain. I spent an hour sitting there staring at it with Google eyes and I, yeah, forgot that part. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Went into a trance and seems. [00:46:17] Speaker C: Oh, honestly. Yeah, it's funny because I'm like, you know, I'm sitting, having this conversation but I'm like making next next to no eye contact because I'm just staring directly at this jersey like, oh my God, it's, it's like six inches from my face. This is amazing. But yeah, stick it in your pants. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Pocket and run out. You try to lift it. [00:46:37] Speaker C: If only. No, it wouldn't have been my size anyway. But no, I, I think, I think everyone is going to love it if you don't. What the hell is wrong with you? So they'll, they'll release it on Wednesday. I heard that there may be a pop up merch situation at FC Dallas's watch party for the San Jose game on Wednesday that may sell the jersey. I've also heard someone say that it might not sell the jersey and then they'll obviously wear it on the 19th for the the 90s night where they'll have what Dodd Cassar Christ Sarco few. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Isn't that this weekend? [00:47:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. And then, yeah, after it's released, I still need to write it, but we'll have kind of a bit of kit nerd in talking about the. The story behind the jersey, the. The whole process, all that fun stuff. So thank you to FC Dallas and to. To Tim for being so nice as to sit down with us and have a little chat about some kit nerding. [00:47:46] Speaker B: All right, well, that would then lead us to the games coming up and which would be San Jose next Buzz. We remember the last time we played San Jose, so. [00:47:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:58] Speaker B: And you don't have Lucho Acosta because he got himself suspended again. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Yeah, the. The no Lucha Acosta. So, like, for me, I think this is a point where you kind of want to be a little more aggressive and try something. Not like against lafc, they rolled out the same tactic, you know, assuming that Acosta would be back. Right. So we're gonna. Well, now you don't have them, so. And you got crushed. So let's try something a little different. So, number one, it can oz your gide play or not? I mean, that's a pretty cut and dry question. If he can play, he's playing by play. I mean, start. Excuse me. If you think he can start, he's starting, you know, but there's always a thing where he's coming back from the hamstring. You don't want to blow it out again. So I would have liked to have seen him get off the bench against lafc and he didn't. So maybe this one, you bring him off the bench. So whichever way you slice it, it's either Irigide and Ibiaga or it's Ibiaga and Abubakar and the center backs. You know, honestly, Norris is. Was out this weekend, so he's not going to come in and start at left back. Even if he gets cleared for this game, Moore's in the right back. It's like, see, there's no choices in a lot of these places. There's no decisions to be made. Pause is playing. So where I think you have to. You maybe you want to think about getting aggressive, go ahead and play. 4, 2, 3, 1. You know, play Kaik and Delgado play. Move legit up until the 10 role. Go with, you know, you're not going to have Anderson, Julio probably. So go with Farrington, go with Bernie, you know, do something. Don't just roll out the exact same thing. That same, you know, fake diamond. We've Been seeing them play that same mechanic built around Acosta, without Acosta, because if you do that, you're just accepting the. The status quo, you know, and if you're Quill, what do you have to lose, right? I mean, do something, right? So try it. You know, if you don't have the center backs to try three, and you. Maybe you don't want to try three when you don't have a cost anyway, so shake it up, man. Try something different. Try and get your boy Bernie on the field, you know, get. Get a double pivot going. Put. Put legit higher up the field where he can really smoke, or if you like him deeper, Delgado's a 10. Put him up there, you know, tr. Try something and see if you can get this thing to shake loose or change or wake everybody up. I think it's time for him to do something, you know, And I think that's the most. To me, the most logical thing is to go with the tactic you actually want to play, you know, put some guys in a chance into a spot where they maybe could try and shine, see if some people will wake up and play for you. Because if you, if you roll out that same mentality, that same tactic, that same flatness that you did at lafc, you're just going to get steamrolled again, you know, and what's the point at. [00:50:45] Speaker B: That point, does it. Does the fact that this is a road game and then they've got their home game against last place St. Louis coming up in three days later, does that change anything for you? [00:50:56] Speaker A: I mean. [00:50:56] Speaker B: No. [00:50:56] Speaker A: What have you got to lose? I mean, you're going to come home, but not that. That helps you anyway. Usually you're better on the road anyway, so why not, you know, add some spice to the thing and try and shake everybody a little bit and wake them up a little bit, you know? You know, get them. Get them going, you know? Yeah, try. Try and. Try and get some electricity, some vibes, some like, man, at least we're trying something. At least we're changing it up. You know what I mean? I don't. You know, at some point, if you just. What's the definition of madness, right? Repeating the same exercise, expecting it to change. So don't just go with the same old thing, you know? And I don't know what Cole's gonna do. I got no idea. But that's what I would do. I would think. I think I'd try and get. Wake my team up when they looked like they were asleep last game, you know? [00:51:36] Speaker B: Well, I feel like I have failed in my goal of lifting up the list. The curious from their morbid state of depression that I've been seeing in various. In a sundry online places. So my apologies. I thought. I thought I would do a better job of that, but I. I failed. [00:51:56] Speaker A: You know, the. [00:51:57] Speaker C: The. [00:51:57] Speaker A: The. The things that could uplift this team a little bit are our guys coming back from injury. And so you kind of have to wait for that to happen. [00:52:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:03] Speaker A: You know what I mean? And that's. That's the. That's the. You know, you're getting me back, Paxton, if that ever happens. You know, I mean, that. That honestly is what needs to. Edison, Julio, you know, those guys will all help. [00:52:13] Speaker B: So it's been a bad week. Maybe it'll get better next week. Maybe the shirts coming out, that alone will make it. Make it a better week. So the hits keep coming. North Texas played a game they lost this week. [00:52:26] Speaker A: They got played off the field like three nothing. The Houston Dynamo, they. They were down in Houston. They. They get smoked by that team a lot down there. It's a tough place to play as a rivalry game. Dallas, North Texas, he's playing. A lot of kids these days, they don't have a lot of guys coming down from the first team. You know, even some of their guys that are up, like, Turkado's up with the first team. Sarver was up with the first team. You know, so it's not. [00:52:46] Speaker B: Where does. Where does Houston to play their games? [00:52:49] Speaker A: At the training complex that they have, there's a little stadium that belong. I think technically belongs to like a rugby team. Cyber rugby team. Yeah, they play in that little stadium there, which is at the Dynamo training facility. It's a decent little complex, you know, it's like. It's a lot. So, like, do you know where in Houston it is? South. Like south. Near Pearland. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:53:11] Speaker A: I think. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Wow. [00:53:12] Speaker C: Okay. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not inside town. It's, you know, it's way out. You know, it's like Toyota Soccer center, except there's no stadium there. No big stadium. It's a small stadium, so. [00:53:22] Speaker B: All right. We don't have any Atletico news other than out there trying to. Trying to win hearts and minds. So good on them. Texoma's unbeaten run ended against the cool kids. Portland's. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:37] Speaker B: Hearts of. Hearts of Portland or Hearts of Maine. Parts of Maine. Yeah. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Hearts of pine Or. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah, wait, hearts of. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Portland, Maine. But yeah, hearts of pine. [00:53:46] Speaker B: It's one of those things. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah. They scored like five minutes into the game. And then held on. Texoma controlled a lot of the play. [00:53:52] Speaker B: Was that the game that didn't start till like 11:30 that night because of the storm? [00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah, like a three hour delay for weather. And then they played it like way late at night and they, the Texom by reports all controlled the game but was not able to get a goal. And I'm lost one nothing. I was glad to see them resign. Bradilla, that was really nice. We've talked about him a bunch. Former academy guy with who had, you know, damn near Paxton pomo level talent that has just got hurt way too many times over his college career. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Yep. Speaking of kit talk, I'm sure all, all three of us are aware of the fantastic reveal for Madison forward's new third kit, which is the Scottish tartan kit. You've seen this? [00:54:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. [00:54:37] Speaker B: So I just want to give them special credit for putting the design focus in the shorts and not the shirt. I think that's a really cool spin on that. That really sets that apart. I mean, it's borderline obnoxious and gross, but it's just it. All of it comes together with the color they picked for the shirt to go along with the pattern in the shorts that makes it look like a kilt. And the killer edition is the green socks, by the way. That's the best part of that kit in many ways. Daniel, you got hot sports opinions on that kit? [00:55:14] Speaker C: No, no, I mean, it's. This is a solid gimmick here. I think they've done a great job, as they always do. Got to see him last week against Texoma and you know, even those, those little pink and blue home jerseys, they've got, even that goalkeeper kit, this orange stripe number. It's just they do it all so well. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:38] Speaker C: Just not like the play on the pitch this season. They kind of shit. [00:55:45] Speaker B: Kind of like Oakland roots, just absolutely not a good soccer team. But man, those Charlie kits are really sweet. [00:55:50] Speaker C: Kind of like FC Dallas released this really cool burn jersey dog. [00:55:56] Speaker B: Are we all going to have a different opinion of this new third shirt? If they absolutely trucked by St. Louis at home on a Saturday. [00:56:05] Speaker A: This kid is phenomenal. [00:56:06] Speaker B: It's so good. We don't care if they lose. [00:56:10] Speaker C: If you dinged a Ferrari, would you still want a Ferrari? [00:56:13] Speaker B: That's a good analogy. All right, very good. Let's see what else we got on the on the run sheet here. So. No, is it. Oh, Dallas Trinity has started to make some moves because that new Dallas Trinity season's right around the corner kids. How many weeks away? [00:56:30] Speaker C: Six weeks. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Yeah, they opened camp today. [00:56:32] Speaker B: Good lord. And they've made some signings guys. [00:56:36] Speaker C: Seven. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Seven signings. Wow. Okay. Anybody of note? [00:56:40] Speaker C: Yes, I mean obviously their MO is super local so they have absolutely stuck with that to a degree. Samir Guidry, a left back out of the FC Dallas youth system. Really really highly rated a lot of US youth camps. She went to the under 17s under 20 World Cups playing with the likes of Trinity Byers, Jaden Shaw and Sam Mazer. She went to Virginia, played 96 appearances there. This is a gonna be her first pro season. So very exciting for anyone that's even know seen the the social media posts from FC L's youth over the years. Maya McCutcheon was also part of the ECNL national title winning team with Gidry. She went to Oklahoma and West Virginia. Actually she signed briefly for North Carolina Courage as an injury replacement. Didn't play, went off to the A league Women Australia technically New Zealand because she played for Wellington Phoenix just finished up there. She in her first professional season she missed all of 36 minutes of a 23 game season so hopefully going to be one of the ones that we don't have the repeat of what we've seen this year or this this past season where players are you know really getting a hard first test in their professional career. She is a center defensive midfielder. She's a six. Who else? Who else? Who else? Just we've just got the Caroline Swans signed as a an academy player. She is the sister of Caleb Swans 1 on North Texas SC. She is captain of the Solar SC 09s. She won the Golden Boar as captain of the US U15 team at the CONCACAF Championship. She's just moved up to the U16 so be very exciting to see her. Very much like Sealy Strawn last year. I think she's a sentiment mid plays a little bit more on the attacking. [00:59:14] Speaker A: Side if I can jump in on swam real fast. She's the one that played Boise CNL up to U15 so she's an absolutely phenomenal baller player. [00:59:24] Speaker C: Two more semi local links today or yesterday they just announced Winnie Balata a she's an attacking midfielder signed From Spokane Canadian, 24 years old, played 10 games up in for Zephyr. Her tie is she was at SMU. Caroline Kelly a striker sign from Brooklyn FC went to TCU 23 years old from around Kansas City had two goals in 300 minutes in that complete shit show of a season of Brooklyn fc. Uh then you have see you had Kylie Delaney, another forward, well, forward, but she's also played a lot of center back and fullbacks. So a real good utility player out of Arkansas. She was with Washington. Spirit again. Injury replacement. She did make one appearance in NWSL. Nine goals, 12 assists and 78 games for Arkansas Razorbacks. So yes, she can score and assist and then the last one is probably the most intriguing. I don't know if you've heard of Riley Foster, the Canadian goalkeeper who got in a car crash. Probably should have died because she got ejected out the windshield. Broke her neck in seven places or sorry, broke her spine in seven places, her neck in five places, two more in the back. Shoulder injury that requires surgery. Partially torn MCL queen quadricep and oh, and a brain blade. She was told that she would never regain mobility and she returned to play professional soccer. So she is now a Dallas Trinity player and probably realistically first choice keeper. So yeah, she was with Liverpool. She recovered I think signed with Everton very briefly, moved on to Durham in the Women's championship in England. And then yeah, now she's. Yeah, now she's, she's coming to, to Dallas with a very cool story. [01:01:35] Speaker B: That is quite a story. They should write a press release about it 137,000 times. [01:01:42] Speaker A: She should do a Ryan Hollingshead thing. Meet up, meet, meet and greet. [01:01:48] Speaker C: Well, I mean, you know, it's funny, we've always made fun of FC Dallas kind of pushing it over, overly pushing the general interest stuff between Riley Foster's car accident in, in Finland, which, which weirdly came a couple of days after winning a penalty shoot out in the League cup for Liverpool just as she was starting to break into the first team there in her first season as a professional. I think she actually, I think she made a, she believes cup squad for Canada too. Between that you've also got Sharma, Ubergu. Dallas Trinity was her first club after battling cancer as well. So you've got a couple of very inspiring comeback stories. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Buzz. I love it that Dan comes to life when we start talking women's soccer. [01:02:42] Speaker A: He knows. [01:02:42] Speaker C: I thought you were going to say. [01:02:43] Speaker B: Human tragedy or that. [01:02:48] Speaker A: That's a great story, man. I'm excited to see her, how she is on the field, you know, see her back in action. [01:02:56] Speaker B: She won't be afraid, she won't be afraid to throw herself in there, will she? [01:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. [01:02:59] Speaker C: Well, I mean if you Google it, there's a lot of photos like they had her in the whole neck halo thing for. Oh yeah, you know, a significant amount. Amount of Time. So especially playing in goal, right? You're throwing yourself around into the ground. You're. You're throwing yourself out at people, at corners to punch a ball away. I think that's just. Unless he punched the ball away from a corner a few weeks ago. [01:03:24] Speaker B: Let's see, what else. [01:03:26] Speaker C: One other. One other women's soccer thing. Deb Aberdeen is at the Women's African cup of Nations. Started the first two games for Nigeria. They won their group. She was arrested for the third group game. But, yeah, Dallas Trinity kind of doing some international stuff is always cool. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Didn't she just extend her deal or something? So her loan continues. So she is. [01:03:50] Speaker C: She is on loan until the end of 2025 from Washington Spirit. So is Tamara Bolt. Tamara Bolt was up for a contract extension, which they exercise. So she. She will stay with Dallas Trinity as a loney. [01:04:05] Speaker A: Great. Good. Good player. [01:04:07] Speaker B: That's a lot. Very good. All right, well, I think we've destroyed this about as best we can. [01:04:13] Speaker A: Come on. That was good. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Was it? [01:04:16] Speaker A: I mean, it's all about, you know. [01:04:19] Speaker C: Hey, what's happening in Mansfield right now? [01:04:21] Speaker B: You know, it's funny. Tramell, the kid that has been producing the kicker, not well, producing and boardopping for us the last few weeks. Lives. He actually brought up the fact that the new stadium is being built, like, walking distance from where he lives, and he's super excited about it. [01:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah. The Mansfield. The city put out some. Or the parks department put out some pictures of the construction progress. So it's coming along, right? They're gonna be, you know, supposed to be ready for next season for North Texas Soccer Club. A little further away from my house, unfortunately, but cool to see them get the venue off. Is a good venue. Hopefully it's a good training field. Stephen needs some. [01:04:56] Speaker B: Is it 5,000 seats? [01:04:58] Speaker A: Oh, I don't remember. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Okay. Not a big. [01:05:02] Speaker A: Sorry. It's not more than 10, for sure. It might be five to 10. Probably more like five. [01:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I would be shocked if it was 10. [01:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think it's 10. I think it's five. But you asked me that without thinking. I didn't look. [01:05:14] Speaker B: All right, guys, I think we did our best considering the circumstances and what's going on and the vibe and the. And the week that it's been. I. I truly think we've done our best work as. As we possibly can. Not our best work in the giant scheme of things, but as can be expected for the situation. I'm just going with that. [01:05:32] Speaker A: That's fair, I think. I mean, you know, it's hard to be positive when you get a performance like that, you know, And I think that if people. If you've made it this far in the season, you're going to be a fan. And why would you drop out now? I mean, if you got this far, I'm sure you'll stick around. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Yes, true. Okay. Well, Dan, thank you very much, sir. Glad to have you back. [01:05:55] Speaker C: Likewise. Likewise. And I think we actually had some live soccer this evening. Sorry. Denton Diablos would you host McKinney over the weekend? And the Storms kind of put paid to their game, but allegedly lead. They are something stupid, like 8 nil up over McKinney. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:06:18] Speaker A: The FC Dallas U23 team, which plays at that same level, won their league and they've advanced now to the regional final. I think it is. I can't remember who they're playing, but it'll come up like next week. That's the team that's made up of all the kids in college, is coached by Zach Lloyd. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Ah, that's the league of clubs thing. [01:06:37] Speaker A: Clubs team. They've been smashing everybody they're playing. It's a really good team. I mean, there's a. There's four, five, six guys on that team that'll be on the, you know, my college watch list this fall and. And have potential to be homegrowns. College homegrowns for the next couple of years. So, you know, if you are into that bag, that's definitely worth watching. If you get a chance to watch their. Whatever the regional final. All right, so my man Diego Hernandez is boss on that team. So I. [01:07:04] Speaker B: All right, Dan. Thank you, sir. [01:07:07] Speaker C: Thank you. And it finished 11 nil. [01:07:09] Speaker B: Holy crap. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Okay. Wow. [01:07:12] Speaker B: I'm gonna predict there will be some tweeting about that happening tonight. From one club to the other. Buzz, I don't know where you are. I know you're on your walkabout somewhere in the west coast by the second. [01:07:25] Speaker A: I'm in Spokane, Washington. The lake is Coeur d' Alene Resort. [01:07:28] Speaker C: Oh, are you picking up another player for Trinity? [01:07:33] Speaker A: Bring one back. Bring her back. Yeah. [01:07:36] Speaker B: Well, I hope you have a good, fun vacation. [01:07:37] Speaker A: Thanks. [01:07:38] Speaker B: And we will speak to you next week. Thank you. Fc. No, no, excuse me. Let me start over. And thank you, DFW soccer Curious fan, you. We will speak to you next week on another episode of Third Degree, the podcast. [01:07:51] Speaker C: At least the kids come in third degree. The third degree nap, I guess. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Sam.

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