3rd Degree the Podcast #362

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Third Degree the Third Degree NEP Podcast [00:00:14] Speaker C: Third Degree the Third Degree Nap Podcast Third Degree the Third Degree N Podcast Third Degree the Third Degree Third Degree [00:00:26] Speaker A: the podcast is brought to you by our wonderful supporters. Just like you, those that choose to help us out at our patreon.com third degree if you're curious about FC Dallas, Dallas Trinity, Athleto, Dallas Rodeo SC, all the teams that are coming to Dallas playing professional soccer, we got you covered. Why don't throw away some support? It is greatly appreciated. Now on with the podcast. [00:00:47] Speaker C: Well, hello there DFW Soccer Curious. Welcome to academic significantly important and fun filled episode of third degree. The podcast Victory Pod for everybody. Victories all the way around. And we will celebrate victories with Dan Crook. Howdy Dan. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Hello. [00:01:09] Speaker C: Hello to you and your hero. My hero, everybody's Hero, Editor, Founder, third degree.net and the original soccer influencer himself with all that hair, Buzz Carrick. Come in, Buzz. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Peter, I know you'll be super excited. The next Dungeon Crawler Carl book comes out tomorrow. Book eight. I know you're hyped. [00:01:31] Speaker C: I am. I'm hyped. You know, it's funny when you last talked about that title, like two nights later my wife and I went to our favorite Chinese restaurant here in Dallas and the the guy at the front desk or the host or the host or whatever, the son of the guy that owns the place was reading that book. It was right there on the host stand, hostess stand. And I thought that was really funny. So there you go. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yep. [00:01:56] Speaker C: And then I looked over at one point when the place was really busy. That must be a good effing book because the place was jammed and there he was standing there with his nose in the book, not paying attention. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Hard to go down. [00:02:07] Speaker C: What is the title of it again? [00:02:09] Speaker A: Dungeon Crawler Carl. [00:02:11] Speaker C: And is, is the title indicative of what the content is? [00:02:15] Speaker A: Yep. [00:02:15] Speaker C: So it's a guy named Carl digging around in dungeons. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a whole genre of fiction now that's basically fiction built around video games in particular, like these sort of role playing dungeon type video games. There's a whole genre like, and this is one of the best examples of it. [00:02:33] Speaker C: I dig it. [00:02:34] Speaker B: So this isn't a variant of a hot call then? [00:02:37] Speaker A: No, [00:02:41] Speaker C: I just want everybody to mark on the calendar that it was Dan on this particular episode that worked Blue and not me. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:50] Speaker C: All right. [00:02:50] Speaker B: Should be expected. [00:02:53] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe there's a new. A new day. Dan's the blue one. Well, as I said, it is Victory Pod. Everybody won this week and we're all feeling giddy and good in North Texas as FC Dallas won. North Texas 1. Dallas Trinity won. Holy smokes. It's a good one. But we'll start with football club Dallas. I actually got to go to the game. I'm glad I went because it was a lovely evening and quite the performance from Eric Quills side. A team Buzz that we've been talking about for some time has got to stop dropping them points at home. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And they did not this time. They got the win. They got two wins in a row. They're playing this new formation. That's awesome. This game is the, the worst example yet of my old man soccer brain struggling to watch the game. Like, listen, intellectually I understand modern soccer and the low value of possession potentially if you play the right way. And Dallas according to Footmob, was out possessed 73% to 27%. [00:04:01] Speaker C: That feels about right. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And the MLS one, I think at the end of the game I looked, it was like 67%, whatever it was, 2 to 3 to 1, basically 2 thirds to 1 third. And big parts of my emotional soccer. Watching watches SE D play like this and thinks, good lord, guys, get a hold of the ball, get a hold of the game. But that's an old school mentality. Intellectually I understand it, but it doesn't matter. When I'm watching the game, I still, it still makes me get all flustered when I watch because. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Why do you think that is an old man mentality? [00:04:32] Speaker A: Well, just because I, I call it that because I've, I've my whole life been watching soccer and, and thought and really valued possession. And most people all the time have always valued possession. Oscar, remember was Oscar and Colin Clark both played what I guess now would be called counter pressing, which is like when you lose it for the first three seconds after you lose it, you hard go back and try and get it back. And Colin Clark always felt like if you had the ball, they can't score if you have the ball. So that was sort of the mentality I've long lived with. And Quills is the first time I've. We've absolutely 100 watched a team here that does not care about the ball at all. And that's a very modern way of thinking. And, and so for me, like trying to emotionally watch soccer that does that is sometimes tough for me because I still want them to get it, get the ball away from them, stop letting them have it. But you know, this is why I'm not a coach, I guess because this is now it's fine. And this game is a 100%, a perfect example of why it's fine. And it's just how we play now. [00:05:33] Speaker B: I mean, you can, you can look at recent change Luchi used to value, you know, his target was 600 passes a game. They made 178 successful passes. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Possession under 30 just boggles the mind. So, like, that part of me is like, I watch them play and I'm like, how are they ever going to score if they can't get the ball? Well, no, I know how they score. I know how this team plays. I know how Dallas plays. I know how cool coaches. We've watched it week after week after week. But sometimes in the middle of the game, I just makes me. I don't. I don't know what the word is. Discombobulated. Trying to watch it and thinking like, good Lord, guys, come on, get the ball. You know, how are we gonna score? We can't get the ball. You know, it's not. [00:06:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Especially in, in person. I don't know if it translates on TV as much. Well, I do know because I've watched a lot of the games on tv, but in person, it's both thrilling and frustrating at the same time because obviously when they finally clear a ball and boot it forward and they get on the run, as happened in at least two of the three goals they scored this game, it's wonderfully exciting and really cool to watch because they're good at it. Now all that other time that less than 30% of the time they. They have the ball can be incredibly frustrating. To watch this team futz around and, and try to clear it or just defend their box. Yeah, it's. It's not pretty, but you know, hey, look, it's. At least in this particular case, it was effective. [00:07:03] Speaker A: I think the important thing to understand, and Dan, I know you know this, is that you can game control. Excuse me? You can control the game. I can say that in proper English, not like Yoda. You can control the game without having the ball. Because SC Dallas in this double eight, this block, this 444 two block double chosen for. They deny you quality opportunities. And as an example, like, if this is your metric you like to look at, XG is 2.05 to 0.59. Despite the fact that Salt Lake had the ball 73 of the time. Right. They only had 9 shots compared to 11 from FC Dallas. So Dallas is preventing them from getting into good opportunities. Looking at the shot chart for real, Salt Lake, three of their shots came Inside the box. Only three of the nine. So that's a really good job of making them deal outside that whole game. Diego Luna was forced to come back to midfield to pick up the ball time except for late and we'll get back to that later. Time after time after time he was coming back to midfield. Dan, I know you know that like you could control the game by controlling the play without the ball because you're doing a good defensive structure. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I think there's, there's actually I was just looking at sofa score and they've got, they've got a couple of charts. So the action areas. Right. It's always kind of a bit. Whatever it's oh, you know, 50 of the play was in the middle. Yeah, well, you know, position. Possession was so split. Of course it was. Possession wasn't split but still 40 of of play was, was in the midfield. FC Dallas was keeping them out. They also have a side to side chart which showed the they forced rail Salt Lake over to the left side of the midfield. So you know, really far away from goal. Really, really denied them the opportunity to do anything there. [00:08:48] Speaker C: I thought, you know, I have a feeling you're going to talk about this in more detail. But one of the really weird quirks to the game was how much Diego Luna was just standing on touchlines pushed way out of the middle for long stretches of the game. And I'm sure that has what I was trying to sort out. First off, I was having a really hard time sorting out what Mastriani's formation is. At one point I was convinced it was a 3, 3, 1, 3 and there was a point. I wish I had a screen grab of it. And the diff and the distance between the midfield, three in front of the back line and the one which is supposed to be assumedly Diego Luna, there was like 30 yards of space between them. It was literally like two completely different blocks of the team and I couldn't quite sort out what they were doing. And then whatever Dallas did to counteract it forced Diego Luna and all sorts of really weird places on the field. And I don't know if that's normal for Salt Lake or if that was something Dallas was forcing them to do. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Well, in essence they're playing 3, 4, 3 so they're, you know, their wing baskets can get back. Um, but Dago Luna has complete and total absolute freedom. Like he can go anywhere he wants, anytime and he does, he goes all over the place and you can actually see their formation like moving to accommodate that. It's almost like you, you wouldn't ordinarily say like a left wing, which is sort of what he is on paper is the, is the pivot of the team, but in a way he kind of is because he drifts in as a 10 and the midfielders will kind of open up a little bit. He'll. Sometimes he'll drop back as a six and one of them will kind of go forward and make space. Sometimes he ends up all the way over on the right. So he's hunting for the ball, you know, and trying to create overloads and get in positions with multiple guys to work, which is why he's out wide or dropping way back. And that's what I mean about this two lines of four that the Dallas is putting together and keeping them way out there because Diego spent, as you say, almost the whole game hunting the, the edges and going way back to his defense, almost even between the center back sometimes trying to pick up the ball up and try and get things going and. And it just was a really stifling job by FC Dallas to maintain that really tight shape and not overextend. It worked beautifully. [00:10:57] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think it was pretty obvious to everybody at minus the opportunity that he got from the goal, he was largely a non factor for the, for the rest of the game. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he really was. And that's a great thing about what we mean about game control, you know, because the way they're going to beat you is that either Gozo, who's a, you know, very, very young, homegrown, or more likely digaluna is going to sort of do something special and be a catalyst. And Dallas muted those catalysts and didn't let them get free. Nolan Norris did a phenomenal job, probably with help from Benjamin over there on Gozo and Diego Luna, who was again, walk about everywhere. Everybody did a good job on him and he was not able to get going at all. You know, he tried a lot to go at Johansson and more and couldn't get anything happening. And he tried to go through the middle and Kaik was doing an amazing job reacting to Luna. In fact, I don't know this for sure, but I tried to watch that, watch how Kaik would react when Luna would come in there. And it looked like he was tasked with the idea that like if Luna comes in the middle, you're going to track him because there were multiple times he ended up on the other side with Ramiro on the rightish because he was following over there with Luna. So if that's the Case. I'm not saying it was intentional, but. But that's sure what it looked like. And if it was the case, that's a really nice piece of understanding by probably from the coach, I would imagine Dan to be able to try and mitigate Luna as much as you can. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah, actually it didn't really come up specific marking assignments or anything like that. It was just one of those weird feel good press conferences. [00:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:35] Speaker C: Okay. Well, I was. I don't know if I. I don't know why I was surprised, but in your instant reactions where you force yourself to name a man of the match no matter how bad or good the game is, you named Kaik as man of the match. [00:12:49] Speaker A: He was amazing. Y. [00:12:52] Speaker C: Tell me more. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Well, the. The first goal he created, he pinched down and turned the ball over. Turn them over. At about the top of the final third for Dallas, you know, he took the ball and started driving forward and got hacked down from behind. Could have been a foul. Good job by the ref. Play on Musa, I think it was that picks that ball up, makes a pass. Moreno's or I believe it was, was in and scores. Second play, second goal. Kaik is the one who's crashing forward on sort of down the left side. Cross comes in, he gets a goal. Just a really nice performance by him overall. He was passing really well. 87% passing. Right. How often the beginning of the season were we talking about how sloppy he was with the ball and how many short turnovers he had? His expected goal was. Was like a point, almost a point eight. He just did a really, really nice job of line breaking. He was a big factor in that. Back four on top of the midfielders lining up. On top of the back four again, tracking Diego Luna, I thought looking specifically for him, three tackles, you know, four for seven on duels, two for two on aerial duels. Just like a really nice game from him both directions and just was a huge catalyst for line breaking when they needed to get out. There was a point at what Mark did. I wrote it down. I think it was the 89th minute where he and Ramiro were getting overloaded right at the top of the box and Kaik was surrounded by three dudes and he dribbled out of that thing, passed, passed it off and then sprinted forward like 15 yards and was. And received another atlas. So it was a double line break in like the heat of the moment. 89th minute when they were really pushing on solid was the score. It was just phenomenal game from Kaik in terms of his maturity and and, and game reading and awareness and just every component of his game. Just really nice. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:41] Speaker C: And it's interesting that happens this week because also this week you were retweeting and discussing on your discord, the, the. Another rumor related to Kaik and, and interest in him overseas and money and all that stuff. [00:14:58] Speaker A: I, I don't have any concrete stuff to add to that, but the, that smoke continues to circle all the time, you know, and one of the, I guess one of the pieces in there that was interesting was Grio having a Damn. Was it 20, 25% sell on something like that? 20. Yeah. So that's obviously a factor, but just the idea. Oh, the other news thing was that that report specifically says, not verified by me, that there's a $20 million buyout clause, which as everybody knows, that's an automatic trigger, you know, where the club can't say no. But 20 million is obviously a lot for a guy like Kaik, but for him to. That's how highly the club thought of him, that they put a $20 million buyout clause in there. I don't think he would take that. I think if you came in, I mean, now the way he's playing and knowing that number, I think if you came in at 10 plus that they would take it. But, you know, I don't know that, that anyone's going to pull the trigger on 20, but it's just an interesting thing. And you know, and to see these, the same sort of clubs listed as sort of tracking him. Obviously somebody's talking about him. Maybe it's a little agent leak, but there was some interesting stuff in there. I don't, I don't think it's likely he's going to leave this summer, but you never know. Never know. [00:16:07] Speaker C: Interesting. Kids come a long way pretty quickly. Considering he had played one professional game when he arrived. [00:16:14] Speaker A: I mean, last season the progression was a little bit, but this season the progression is like, it's jumping fast. Like even from the beginning of the season till now, it's really remarkable how much he's improved, particularly the sloppiness. Peter, which I know drove you crazy, all of us crazy. [00:16:28] Speaker C: I still think he's pretty sloppy. And watching him lie, you know, it was funny. And maybe this is a byproduct of watching the game at home versus watching it in the stadium when I'm with friends. And maybe I'm not paying as close attention when I'm with people because I'm talking to them or whatever and I'm not paying as close Attention to the game. When I heard you say he was man of the match, while I realized he had scored a goal and had a really nice assist, I was surprised you thought that high level, because I was. I remember thinking somewhere towards the middle, third, the third, the three quarter point of the game thinking, man, Kaik's really disappeared out of this game. I hadn't noticed him very much. But again, I will caveat that I was with friends and probably talking more than I normally do when I'm sitting at home all by my lonesome with my handy little notebook, taking notes and being super critical. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Well, you know, a lot of it for me was watching him work defensively in the defensive shape collective because your RRO is very static. And in this particular shape because of the flex, because Ben Yamin is given some freedom, because Valiente is coming up to become a 10 and Johansson's coming forward and even Johan has some freedom. Kaik is still the one that's required to do most of the running in the central midfield. Romero kind of stays at home. So when you, when I'm watching that kid be the guy who's getting forward, into the box, getting sideline to sideline, stopping plays and turning them back, basically, it looks like to me, he's assigned with tracking Diego Luna. Anywhere that guy goes, because almost often when l was out wide, he would be out there to give an assist. When Luna tried to cut inside multiple times, he was right there. Sweeping shot. With Kaik, I just thought it was, you know, maybe it was because I was particularly looking for him in this regard. I just thought he was really outstanding in terms of holding that shape together and keeping the whole team going and then getting forward. I thought he was one of the best guys on the team. Getting forward with this. [00:18:19] Speaker C: Yeah, let me, let me clarify. I don't. I'm not. He's clearly better than he was last season and he's made tremendous progress. You know, I don't know if he's a starter for a contender in the league, you know, and when I saw that teams like Chelsea were in part of this rumor, I was like, I have never imagined Kaik as a Premier League. I just don't know if that's in his. I don't know. Dan, do you got a difference of opinion on. On Kaik in his game and his performance? [00:18:49] Speaker B: No, but I mean, a player like him does kind of line up to Chelsea's business model. [00:18:56] Speaker C: Oh, I'm sure it does. But is he. Is, is his, is his potential as a Premier League player? Like, I would have never in a million years thought a Premier League club after this short amount of time had their designs on somebody like that. [00:19:14] Speaker B: I wouldn't have thought so. But, you know, it's amazing how appealing a gritty Brazilian player can be to. To a lot of clubs in Europe. [00:19:27] Speaker A: Yeah, well, in terms of the sloppiness, Peter, he was not dispossessed once. He only had two sort of loose touches with the ball, bounced away too far, and he kind of lost control of it. So that's, you know, relatively. That's very low for him, and it's relatively low for any central midfielder on a team. Just for comparison, Ben Yamin had four touches where he lost it, and. And l. Farington in 25 minutes, had five. So, like, you know, that's a pretty clean. Yeah, pretty clean game, Guy by ke. I just thought it was really good in this one. [00:20:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay, Very good. And then we also got the moment we've all been waiting for. Moreno finally just showed off a bit of the. The promise that we've all been told that he has. And, man, that was a really nice little turn and finish to open the. The scoring for the team. And it was good to see him perform like that. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he was solid. He had a very low number of touches, which I'm sure is really frustrating for him, but that's always true of this team when it's gonna be low possession and the strikers. Which is why we talk so much about quality chances. Right. And being clean and getting shots on target, you know, and so he was terrific in this game, I thought, you know, played his role and didn't. I don't know enough about Santi Moreno to know if this is out of character or not, but he's not getting frustrated by not getting the ball. Like, I'm not seeing him yell at people. You know, I'm not seeing him, like. Like, compared to Musa, his body language is actually a little bit better. Now we know Musa's got demonstrative body language. It's just his nature. He's not really mad at his team. He's just frustrated in the moment. So I. I just, like. I like how Marino's shaping up. I think it's looking like he could be a real nice asset, particularly in a attacking sort of mindset. If he can stay focused like that and deliver in the moment when he gets so few touches, that's going to be. That's a really nice player. [00:21:17] Speaker C: Were you surprised he came off as early as he did? [00:21:20] Speaker A: No, because there's a Heavy load this week. You know, there's a midweek game, so he probably was looking to stop a couple people a little bit earlier than he might normally, you know, and he, he does have some other good attacking pieces, you know, and when you're going to be sitting back that much, those front two guys do have to press quite a bit. So it's not surprising that you would want to change both of them out late in the game for fresh legs. You remember we talked about this before, that not every sab is about the guy that came off playing badly. So that's just about a fresh dude coming in. And especially when you have five subs. Right. It's different than it used to be. I got all these extra subs. I can bring guys in just cuz. You know what I mean? So I don't read too much into that anymore. [00:21:57] Speaker C: Where is everybody? Dan, I'll start with you. Where are you now that he's. I think this is his third straight start at least. Where are you on Valiente at this point? [00:22:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a bit quiet, actually. I thought it was kind of hard to pick out any. Anyone that was a bit below expectation. I kind of thought it was potentially Valiente and Johansson, but Christ, I'm trying to think what he did do now. [00:22:26] Speaker A: Not much, no. [00:22:27] Speaker B: He had. Yeah, he had one shot that I remember. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:31] Speaker B: I don't remember if he. I think he spooned it wide, but it was. Yeah, yeah. I'm still on this whole thing of can Camareno and Valiente really coexist, but I don't know also how much of the formation changes is negatively impacting his role. [00:22:52] Speaker C: Well, I do think Dallas moving forward has a bit of an issue because they really don't have anybody like, you know, obviously Logan isn't a guy that Quill thinks can play in this formation in that role. And he's trying Valiente and he's not really cooking yet. They don't really have anybody else to do it, do they, Buzz? [00:23:13] Speaker A: Not really. I've been trying to think about that. I agree with Dan's assessment. He just didn't really do much in this game. He was kind of non existent, you know, I. To be fair, sometimes you just need guys that aren't getting burned and so like if he can just keep playing the game and do all right, that might be all right. They're asking to do a lot of work of doing the flex. He's the one that's going right midfield up to 10. That's a lot of work for A guy who's normally just, probably just a pocket player, but you know, he did not do very much and, and did not make a whole ton of mistakes, but also didn't do a lot of really good things. He had the one shot, took a couple corners, had a couple of, had a tackle, had a couple of headers and that was about it, you know, didn't I, I, I don't know whether he just doesn't like this shape because he was not good in duels at all anyway, which is not a Quill kind of thing. Right. Quill's all about that fight, so he's not going to like that. So, you know, again, this is not a player that we're seeing the performance we would expect out of him. But remember, he's not a dp, he's a value buy. You know, he had a couple of games maybe a month back where he looked like he was starting to do some things look pretty good when they were playing and was a 10. And then Moreno started getting action and that sort of, as Dan has said, has started diffusing him. And particularly this new shape is not great. I'm trying to think who could play out there. I mean, D is not even making the bench. You'd have to look at somebody who could be like a, a gritty sort of mid and flex like that and playmake a little bit. I, I, I would say if you go off with a kid, you might look at Caleb Swan or David Garcia, either one. The only other person I can think of is Sam Server. Like if you, if you, if you, if you thought, boy, I'm really getting hurt in that spot. Sam Sarver has the tenacity to play wide mid and the energy to get forward. Now you, he wouldn't get forward and be a tenant underneath. He would want to get forward and be like a real winger and get up next to Musa. But I, I can't imagine right now Quill's like, oh, I gotta fix that right mid spot. I bet he's not thinking that way. I bet he's thinking like it's fine. [00:25:15] Speaker B: He's just been focused on the left back spot. [00:25:18] Speaker A: Yeah, right, so, so it probably is a, he's fine. Let's try and coach Valiant up and get him going a little bit. Probably not looking. I don't think I would bet not to yank him because I don't know that there really isn't anybody else that could play that sort of spot. Not, not that's in the, not that's in the because, like, if you think about Patrick. Patrick Delgado out there, that'd be a mess. I mean, that would be horrible because he wouldn't have the work rate to track back. He's. He's loathed too much. [00:25:43] Speaker C: You know, we'll have a whole Sam server section of this episode here, so let's save that. Yeah. I think it's interesting about Valiente is. Does Dallas buy Valiente? If they had known Moreno would have. Would have eventually become available. [00:26:02] Speaker A: I bet not. [00:26:03] Speaker C: Yeah. See, I agree. [00:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:06] Speaker C: And I. You know, and you probably feel bad for Valiente because he came here and thought he was going to have a really good shot at a starting position that he. That is his prime spot. And then they go out and get this dude, and now he's. He's either going to sit on the bench or he's got to learn a new position. [00:26:20] Speaker A: Well, what I know about Quill is that Quill won't think about, like, that idea. Quill's gonna say, these are the players I have. This is what I'm gonna go with. He won't think about, like, oh, I. I wouldn't have had you get this guy for me. No. [00:26:33] Speaker C: But that's just the reality of the situation. [00:26:35] Speaker A: It is the reality situation. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, he filled some good roles, I think, up until they got Moreno, but you knew, since they got Moreno, they were gonna try to work on how to get him in there. [00:26:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:44] Speaker A: You know, the. We've talked about this before, that Valiente, likely. If. If Farrington was on fire like he had was a month and a half ago. It's probably Musa Farrington and Valiente is not starting, you know, because. But then how do you play Moreno, Farington, Musa together? That's a tougher question, too, when this formation's playing so well. That would be the other guy, Farrington. Can Farrington play the Valiante flex? I think he probably could, you know, [00:27:12] Speaker C: play better than he did Saturday night. [00:27:14] Speaker A: No. Yes. If. Sorry, Ferrington, inform. Yeah. Not Farrington like he played this weekend. He was pretty poor when he came in. Yeah. [00:27:23] Speaker C: You know, I. I think this would be a good opportunity because you talked about formations, to dig into the fact that the formation has shifted a little bit. You've talked about this quite a lot on the podcast, but I think it's become such a. A talking point, at least enough of a talking point that Steve Davis himself decided to go Twitter and, like, start drawing lines and trying to explain to people what this is. And so, again, this is something you've been going on for a while, so, you know, maybe let's take a few minutes and dig into that a little bit. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you can go all the way back to Lucci with his whole tactics are fluid. When I would ask him what the shape is, he'd be like, tactics are fluid. I know Lucci, but there's a base and the bass on this one is clearly the 4, 4, 2. And you can see it playing his day because of the fact that they only have the ball 25 to 30% of the time. So they're sitting there, you can just look at it clear as day. There's these two lines of four with two strikers in front of them, and they just sit in that shape and they defend in that shape and it's fine. And then modern football, right, we're getting forward, we're advancing, they flex out of this in a very specific way. They swing Norris and the other two center backs sort of central a little bit. Johansson releases forward, he becomes a wide midfielder, balancing Benjamin on the left. So now you have four across Benjamin, Romero, Kaik and Johansen. Valiante releases forward under the strikers and you have him as a 10. And you have Moreno as a tennis off striker and Musa as a 10. And so now you have your three guys in the middle. And as you get even more forward, Johansen and Benyamin start to release a pump on the wings and you get in this very. You'll see it worldwide, this offensive final third shape where you basically have three across the top. You have a nine and two high wings and. And you have your two guys underneath them. And in this case it's Moreno, Valiente, you see that all over the world. And then you have your two holders underneath holding the shape. And then you have your back three. And as you get high enough up the field, you'll notice Norris and More both start to cheat up a little bit and sneak up a little bit to help hold that ball in there and come up and support the wings. It's a very classic shape, very common shape you'll see in the attacking third all around the world. It's not something you're diagramming on paper as the base formation. It's just how shapes flex forward out of a base formation, which cases is 442. So it's just a slight adaptation from what they were doing before. It's not a massive change, just a slight change, you know, because they're, they're defending in this back four instead of a back five. And keeping that four in front and it's helping keep people. People away from goal even more so. And that's really nice. [00:29:54] Speaker C: And clearly that's an attempt by Quill to adapt his tactics and formations to the play players he has. So apply that a little bit to that, you know, in that explanation of what is he trying to account for or. Or accommodate by playing this way. [00:30:10] Speaker A: Well, when he lost Bernie, he lost his left wing back and he's tried some other people over there. He tried [00:30:19] Speaker B: decent. [00:30:19] Speaker A: The Haitian decent. Thank you. I kept my brain kept saying to Nielsen like, that ain't right. Slightly different money, slightly different profile and money. Yeah. [00:30:29] Speaker C: Same amount of production. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Yes. Tried decent over there a bit, you know, tried using more and Johansson left a little bit, which is okay, but isn't great, you know, because that hurts your right wing back when you're doing that. So basically like it took him a bit, but then he tried this thing where you're sort of. Johansson's playing almost the same way. Johansson has always played that right wing back where he's coming back to the fanny, he's going forward. That doesn't change very much. What changed is he's. He basically took Benyamin, who is not a wing back, and was also struggling in the middle when he's. The play is surrounding him and he's out of his depth because he's a young kid. He puts him over on the outside and now he's cut the field in half for the guy where everything's in front of him because he's looking towards the middle of the field. Simplifies the game, makes it better for him. You're not asking him to wing back because you have Norris back there in this more of a flat sort of shape. Norris is really good about coming out and supporting and really good about passing. Benjamin is a pretty good passer relative to Deon, for example. So now you can build up the left side as well as you could build up the right side before. So it also lets Romero, because you're keeping now this four across and you're not having a flying wing back. It gives Romero and Kaik both nice combination people to play out and build out up that way. And it allows because you still have now these guys that are wide midfielders basically who are coming forward in supporting you. Why that makes you even more keep your valiant. Valiente and Moreno narrow with Musa and keeps them. Because when we saw him try Patrick Sin Delgado as one of those under 10 guys and Delgado went and camped on the left wing the whole game and blocked the left wing back, whoever it was, for a couple of games that didn't work. So he's been. School's been cycling through these ideas, trying to find things. They worked and now he's finally found one. So it's an interesting. It's been fun watching him try them, try and figure out what the hell I got that I can do. That's going to work. And now he's got one working. So it's really fun because now it'll be okay. We're going to ride that. But how do we make adaptations? We got a little bit of heavy week. You know, what's going to. Who's doing this, who's doing that. So, yeah, it's been fun. [00:32:34] Speaker C: All right. Back in the back line, obviously, Ure continues to play well. Norris is playing well, Shaq is playing well. I'll talk about Clodi in a second. One of the things that I noticed during the game in the second half when the team was really kind of getting pushed back and there was a lot of this clear the ball out and recycle and everything, just coming back at them, there was a moment before he got subbed into the game and he was wearing his Penny Ibiaga. A guy on this in our circles has caught his fair share of flack and criticism. What? [00:33:14] Speaker A: Well, I, I respect the player. I don't respect the decision to have signed him. Yeah. Long term money, that's totally different things. Yeah. [00:33:23] Speaker C: Well, one thing that we've always heard about him is that he's a great locker room guy. And I thought there was a moment Saturday night that you probably wouldn't have seen on television and you only would have noticed it if you were in the stadium is the team was struggling to kind of find its positioning in a setup for a set piece. And he, you know, all the guys are over there kind of doing warmups to the right of the goal. If you're facing Dallas's goal on the south end, they're all kind of gathered over on the right. At one point he saw something that needed correction or the team out on the field hadn't picked out and he kind of like half sprinted over to the near post and practically got on the field and was pointing at somebody to do something and it corrected it. And I just thought that was really good leadership on his part that he felt obligated to be that kind of proactive and trying to help his teammates out with something he thought they didn't notice or see or weren't covering or something. I thought that was really great. And you know, and by the way, when he came out and subbed in, it's his heading, his clarion clearing header that starts the whole server thing. So, you know, kudos to him. [00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, the guy's a really hard worker, keeps himself in great shape. He's a great leader by example for young people that are learning how to be professionals. I love him as a defensive sub role. You know, that, that was not my. Never was a problem as a second tier guy, the bench guy. I love that you can bring him in late in the game and he'll be ready to go and fight. You know, he's a. He's more vocal than some of the other guys they have in the back, which is good because some of those other guys are a little quiet. But Dan, I'm sure you know by now how important he is in that locker room. And, and it's great to see and hear that even when he's not starting now, he's still a massive in there. [00:35:06] Speaker B: Oh, enormous presence. I mean, you know, Lala Sabubikar is too. But I think it does seem like everyone goes to, to, to Ibiaga for everything. I mean, he's, he's definitely earned the title. On cry. [00:35:24] Speaker C: I was mentioning Collode, one of the, you know, he's fun, exciting guy to watch play. He also has this really weird streak where at least once a game he goes rogue and you hold one breath and it's caught him a couple of times this season. It's probably not caught him more times than it should have because there are moments where you're like, what in the world is that kid doing? And it happened again in this game. But I do want to point out, and it happened so late in the game, the game was already decided 3, 1. It was in the 97th minute. I think if you go and look back, the timestamp is 96, 26, I think it is. Salt Lake recycles a ball out and pumps it in to the far post and it comes off of Nolan Norris's leg from about three, four yards out and where I was sitting in the stands. However, Collodi kept it from going in the goal and knocking it out for a corner kick was so fast and alarming, literally everybody in my immediate area at the same time gasped. And we all were looking at each other like, did what just happened? Did that really happen? And I was frustrated when I got home that because the game was over and it was late in the game and it was a flash apple. The Production truck didn't replay it. [00:36:49] Speaker A: I know. [00:36:50] Speaker C: And so I had to go back and I found it and I clipped it and I threw it on the Internet because I just thought that was an astoundingly amazingly good save. [00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:00] Speaker C: That he probably. In fact, he didn't even get credit for it. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Did you know that they count as a save? [00:37:05] Speaker B: No, they didn't because it came off his own player. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Oh yeah, that's true. It came off Norris and it is [00:37:12] Speaker C: a ridiculous save on his part. So that alone I will give him forgiveness for whatever wild ass thing he was doing earlier in the game that caused me to skip. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Well, he's always had phenomenal reactions. Reaction saves are one of his best qualities. A long range shot, sobbing power shots. He's also quite good with that and we're, we know his feet are really, really good. You know, if he was 6 4, he would not be in MLS and he would not have ever been in MLS. He would have been gone a long time ago. He's only 6ft tall, but that's not tiny, you know, that's enough. [00:37:46] Speaker C: Obviously David r. Is only 6:1. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean Nick Romonda was 5:11, you know, maybe, maybe clothes, 5:11 at night and 6:00 clock in the morning, whatever. I'm just saying that like he's going to be, he's a really good keeper and a great leader too at a relatively young age. Really good communicator. He's got all, everything in the bag that you'd want to have some of which developed in at Columbia, you know, so like he was a good leader in the academy, but I think even more so now having, you know, been there and been like the voice of the team going through the COVID era or whatever in Columbia and being having his coaches change on him twice and things like that and sort of being the leader of that team. So the kids got everything you'd want other, other than of course the maybe 2 or 3 inches more but you know, still terrific and he's doing an amazing job. I thought it was really funny that they were like on the broadcast, the commentator was like, oh, he wasn't even supposed to be the starter this year. No. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he went last year. He was the starter coming in even before they sold paw, he was the starter. So sometimes the narratives get a little confused. But yeah, she's doing amazing job. [00:38:51] Speaker C: Set your Apple TV commentator expectations on. [00:38:56] Speaker A: No. Yeah, we got, we got the bad Kaik again a couple of times, including once really, really loud on one of [00:39:01] Speaker B: his moments on the go. [00:39:04] Speaker A: Yeah, and then it. It changed two or three times all around. Like, I think it's. I think his assistant color commentator was trying to help him out because she. She kept overly pronouncing Kaik, trying to, like, get him to do it right. But, you know, it was. It wasn't as bad as last week, but still, it was a moment. [00:39:25] Speaker C: Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. All right, so here is our very special programming Sam Sarver segment. That kid is a superstar, if only because he has this unique ability to take what is famously a rather quiet and not giant atmosphere crowd and completely electrify everybody in a way that I can't really recall from any other Dallas player prior. Like, I've really thought about this. I can't think of anybody who just seems to be so insistent on trying to raise the temperature in the room, not just through his play, but how he kind of engages and interacts with the fans. And I. Man, he's such a cool kid and so special. And that moment with that goal was just unbelievable to see in person. And I was. I'm really, really glad I was there to. To have witnessed it. [00:40:27] Speaker A: I was really surprised that he was as fast as he was not in a short distance. I knew that for like the whole 80 yards to stay ahead of that guy. That was great. [00:40:36] Speaker C: I'm telling you, Buzz, in person, when he pushed it, he hit the NAS and just beat that those two dudes out and ended up in front of them. It was stunning to see in person, [00:40:48] Speaker A: explosive and held every 80 yards. And then the sublime sort of drift across the path of the guy chasing him so that the guy couldn't get up on this. That was the key to the goal because that meant the guy couldn't get beside him and push him off the ball. So I was a little undersized compared to that guy. So it was really important to keep him behind him, you know, and then be able to also get a slight angle on the keeper to get the ball in the net. So just a sublime goal. Just phenomenal goal when it was really needed because Brain Doodoo had made it two 1. And they really needed to. That goal. Really needed to close the game out, honestly, because otherwise you might have been in real danger. [00:41:27] Speaker C: I. I like your new UEFA license. UEFA Pro license. Terminology of brain doo doo. We'll get into that in a second. Dan, you were at the game. It was a remarkable moment, wasn't it? [00:41:40] Speaker B: It was. And yeah, the feint to the right was just perfect timing. Because he was starting to, he was starting to flag off a little bit. Once he'd got that kind of 60, 65 yard. Oh no, I guess the whole run was 60 yards. You know, he'd got just beyond the center circle and he was starting to slow down. The defender starting to catch up. So just to, to use his body, take the defender off balance just gave him exactly what he needed for the opportunity. He may be the first player in MLS history to pick up a yellow card accumulation suspension purely for taking his shirt off. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Every time was funny. He took his sports bra off too. And I wondered is he gonna get two yellows? [00:42:26] Speaker A: I think he wants you get one. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Yeah. You've delayed the game. You can't really do much more. [00:42:32] Speaker C: That would have cheapest ever, right? Yeah, it was great. And if you haven't seen it, everybody needs to go back because it's been shared on social. His interview with the360 people which includes his hero Phillips and it's, it's so good because he says, I mean literally, if you were to write a handbook of things you want your young backup coming off the bench, goals for to say on national television. It's like he, it's, it's perfect. It's so good. Heartwarming and great. He thanks his mom. He tells the story that the. He. He got his speed from his mom who ran track in college. I didn't know that. [00:43:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he's very smart obviously because like I think a lot of that is planned because I don't think that kid lacks in self belief, you know. But he knows better. He's not the kind of guy too because he works his tail off and he has a fantastic mentality. He's not going to be like I'm the man, I should be in there. Like he knows how it works. He gets it. So like he knows that to buy this time and just keep doing what you're doing because Quill, I would bet you money loves that kid because of his mentality. Right? That's got 100 a quill mentality guy. [00:43:45] Speaker B: But you remember when they had the like to come to Jesus moment in San Jose last year. He credited Sam Sarva's locker room impact. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:43:55] Speaker C: Yeah. I think the thing with Sam and he even said it in his post game quotes is that he knows he's kind of got this one thing which is his, his pace and his athleticism. And I don't know if that translates yet. I'm going to emphasize that word being an MLS level starter because I, you Know, beyond the thing that we saw in the game that night on Saturday, I don't know how much more to his game there is in terms of connecting and, and, and, and creating all, all the other parts that that position is going to need. He's, I don't think he's there yet, but man, he's an absolute dagger late [00:44:33] Speaker A: in a game and, and he, he's intelligent enough to adapt his game. When he, when he first came up to mls, he tried to do some of the moves that were working in mls. Next pro when he was with North Texas and they weren't working because an MLS defender, one on one, could snuff that out. A couple of those moves he was doing and so he quit those and start and try to work on finding other moves and he's found other ways to be able to affect them and get square score is going. So he, he knows enough about the game to be able to adapt what he's personally doing to try and be effective. And so I think we can't judge for now like where his ceiling is going to be. No, I have no idea what's going to be because of the brain, because of the soccer sort of get itness of the whole thing. So like I'm, I, I'm, I think he's got the perfect mentality right now of like, you know what, I'm coming up the bench, I'll be effective. I'm about my time. Like I'm good. Like coach is going to ride me like this. That's great. I'm a keep heart. I'm getting paid to play soccer. This is awesome. You know, that's all great. [00:45:25] Speaker B: I think one, one really cool, like credit to him moment. We've obviously talked a lot about Quill trying to get the best out of players. And some formations do work for some players, some don't for others. While we were talking to Sam in the locker room after the game, he mentioned, you know, the, the topic came up, hey, you know, you, you're getting success out of wing back. And he did say, you know, in the off season he went to Quill and he said, you know, this is a position I do want to learn. I do want to, you know, kind of take on a bigger role in the team. Find, find my spot and you know, you've seen it two games in a row. Come off the bench and score. [00:46:08] Speaker C: Yeah, that's an okay. He even commented, if that's my job to come off the bench and score, Quill's probably going to keep doing that and instead of sticking me in to start the game, you know, the other thing that I think is great about Sam and the reason why he's such a fan favorite is that he demonstrates a love of the club in a way that we don't see from other players. Like, we all love Musa, but I don't get the sense that Moussa's like, Dallas till I die kind of guy, but Sam gives off that vibe. I've told this story before. I'll never forget the first time I saw a player kiss the badge, and it was Oscar Perea after he scored a goal, when it was the burn. And I just was. I melted over that moment. And to be fair, I don't know if I've ever seen another Dallas player kiss the badge since then. Have you? Can anybody recall seeing a Dallas player other than Oscar? [00:47:04] Speaker A: I feel like pull the shirt up. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Maybe Bobby Jesus did. [00:47:08] Speaker C: Did they? Okay, well, that would be great. I hope it happened. I just don't recall it off the top of my head. But I think that's the thing, is that out of this current group of players on the roster, Sam's the one who just feels like, man, he would literally run himself to death into the ground for this team. [00:47:25] Speaker A: And I. [00:47:26] Speaker C: And I think that just totally translates with the fan base. [00:47:30] Speaker A: You know, I. I don't want to speak for him in any way, but, like, I. I think coming out of Indiana, he was a very good player, very effective player, like, really highly thought of among the seniors. And then we know now that seniors lose value in the draft. They're. The teams all go for younger players. So Sam slid down the draft and he got taken, you know, later and probably felt sort of slighted and then, like, didn't and really had almost no chance to make the roster right out of the gate, you know, and they put him in North Texas and they gave him an opportunity, and when he performed, they brought him along and they. And they sort of lived up to their bargain, I think, in terms of like, kid, if you do the business, you're going to be up here with us. And that proved to be true. And I think it's. I don't know whether it's lucky or whether it's just good scouting on the club's part that they've drafted a player who fits the coach's paradigm and he's got the perfect coach for him. The guy that's got this whole dog warrior in his thing, which is Sam's at heart what kind of player he is. So you Know, it's a great situation, and I'm sure he probably had a moment where he thought, holy crap, my career is not going like I thought it was. And then yet he sort of salvaged it. And the club has honored that commitment and brought him up and made him a key part of the ball, the locker room and the team. [00:48:45] Speaker C: Well, I just think to go back and summarize the sequence it. Him seeing the ball up in the air, the way that he plays the ball off of his thigh in front of him into space is really good and very smart. That's all very purposeful and, and, and done well. The run for 85 yards or whatever it was, and then the really sweet little finish. You know, how many times have you seen a guy in this league in that exact same position end up getting saved or hitting it wide or over the top or whatever? And I just says a lot about the kid to, to pull that off. And man, I want to have him on the show so bad. I just, I hope they help. I hope they offer him up or he makes himself available. I think he'd be great to have on the radio. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure you could inquire and ask. [00:49:36] Speaker C: The offer is always there and open, especially with Mr. Sarver. So kudos to him. He would have been my man of the match because I just love the way. Look, the other part of it, Buzz, that you probably didn't see that happened in the stadium. And I kind of feel bad for Sam because he's such an energy guy and he wants the crowd to get revved up and because Dallas crowds, and this isn't Dallas FC Dallas, this is like Dallas crowds, period. Any sport. They all kind of like ramp up and get excited and then that, that excitement and that atmosphere dies off very quickly. And after he scored the goal, there's two or three times where he literally gets frustrated that it's gotten quiet again. He turns back around to the crowd and starts doing the arm thing again and get everybody revved up. And I was like, man, Sam deserves better than that. So there you go. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Well, a guy that only plays 25 minutes and, you know, did not get the game winner, just got a goal. It's a good goal. [00:50:31] Speaker C: It was the 90 night gold buzz, and that's the 99 goal. [00:50:34] Speaker A: It wasn't an angle. It's huge. But that's not, man, the match fair unless you get two or three or a game winner maybe. But like 25 minutes is hard to really be really difficult to be on the match. For me for me. For me. But I'm with you. [00:50:46] Speaker C: It's all the intangibles. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's an amazing performance on this part. [00:50:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I mean, this is what we're talking about way when we're talking about Kai, but that doesn't mean he's gonna manage. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, Sam Server could play the rest of his career in Dallas. I don't expect Kaik will be here for much longer. You know what I'm saying? [00:51:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:02] Speaker C: Like, Sam's a guy we're all gonna fall in love with and hope he's here for the rest of his career because he's just that kind of character. He's so cool and he looks good in the cowboy hat. [00:51:10] Speaker A: That reminds me, raised. The topic was raised in the Discord show if they let him wear 19. [00:51:15] Speaker C: No. [00:51:15] Speaker A: Bobby Ryan's number. Yeah, I think. I think 19 stays homegrown. [00:51:18] Speaker C: It has to be. I mean, I love Sam, but he should not wear Bobby's number. That's got to be a homegrown one, Hundo. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Yeah. If I go back on the. The whole rule of, you know, a. A homegrown that's displayed traits like Bobby Ryan and has turned down interest from overseas to. To kind of see things through with. With FC Dallas, then, you know, you. You can't. You can't make a rule, enforce it exactly once and then go. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker C: And you have to be really blonde. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Well, SA's blonde and balding, so that. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Oh, fair. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Right. So it's either going to Nolan or. Or SA. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Well, Nolan said he's sticking with 32 his whole FC's career. So much to my sad soccer heart. [00:52:08] Speaker B: There's a three in there. That's fine. [00:52:10] Speaker C: And a two. Buzz. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Yeah, you can play right back as well. Yeah. [00:52:17] Speaker C: God bless Sam Sarver. Very good. All right, so Dallas now has a Wednesday game. That means Vancouver, it's the last home game before this team disappears from in front of its fans for a very, very extended period of time and tears [00:52:32] Speaker A: down big chunks of the stadium. [00:52:34] Speaker C: I guess. I. Man, that thing. How that thing's going to be ready come middle of September. I. It's going to be some. Don't they have a live cam going on? [00:52:46] Speaker A: They do, but it's on the east side, so I'm going to need another one. I'm going to need a lesson outside. Well, yeah, but it faces the east side. [00:52:54] Speaker C: Yeah, but at this point, with the. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Their. [00:52:55] Speaker C: Their number one priority has to be getting the east side finished. [00:53:00] Speaker A: Sure, but that's why we need A second one pointing at the west side to see when that knockdown starts happening. [00:53:04] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm curious if when they reopen, the east side essentially means just the seats are done. Not the club, not any of the. You know what I mean? [00:53:16] Speaker A: Well, the problem would be you wouldn't be able to do construction above those seats. Like. Like people are gonna be sitting in them. They can't. The building can't be under construction above it. But you're gonna have to finish that, I would think. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:28] Speaker A: You know, insurance wise. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. That's also the entrances for those seats is. Is going to be behind the club, so you really can't. [00:53:36] Speaker A: Concessions. [00:53:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Bathrooms. It's all gonna be done. [00:53:40] Speaker C: Ah, interesting times, for sure. All right, so Vancouver's coming to town. They are badass. Yeah. They may not have a plate, they may not know where they're going to be playing there and MLS soccer in the near future, but they are still a very good team and the team that knocked Dallas out of the playoffs last year. So what buzz are you anticipating in terms of rotation and starting 11 and all that? Jim? Jam. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Well, Sam Sarver after the game let us know. He told us, he said Quill is superstitious and when things are going well, he doesn't change it. Doesn't change it up. He believes in that. So I would have said that anyway. I would have said when you win two in a row, like you're winning it, you don't change it. And home games are huge. Home games are everything. The ties they've had at home have killed them and are killing them. And maybe the other thing that kills them at the end of the season because they didn't get enough points in these home games they've had. So this is a home game and you're on fire. So you don't change anything. Leave it 100% the same. If you get through this game and then next Saturday you're going out on the road and you feel like some guys are looking burn out, then you can rotate for that one because you'll have plenty of time. I believe after that San Jose game, you have a whole nother week. So you miss Colorado again. So plenty of time to recover after that San Jose game. I think probably given that you only have five games total left to the international break, the big, huge break for the World Cup. I don't know that you need to rotate very much going down the stretch. I think you can probably go with your best team team for five straight games. Like one midweek game is not the end of the world. When you're playing like you're playing just, you know, to bear that. The coach will bear that in mind. Going to San Jose, he'll be like, okay, I'll analyze my team. Especially if they don't win again, then you can really have the freedom to mix it up. But if they win again, I would just ride it. So it, you know, because you're going to have two months almost basically to recover after this, you know, only Dietz is going to. That we know for sure is going to. Musa maybe is. And that's it. [00:55:41] Speaker C: Everyone else, you know, it's funny, I'm glad you mentioned that because in the discord, there was some discussion as to whether or not Musa rests this game. But I'm thinking, dude is trying to make the Croatian national team. He's playing and starting as much as they'll let him. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Did you, did you see his reaction to getting subbed off? [00:55:57] Speaker C: Yeah, he was pissed. He didn't want to come off, kick [00:55:59] Speaker B: the out of a curler, was throwing stuff around like he wants to play. [00:56:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I be shocked if he doesn't start. [00:56:07] Speaker A: And I would trust a guy with that level of ability to know himself in a sense. Like, if he thinks he's still good to go, leave him out there. It's five games. It's not. You don't have to worry about how he performs in the summer. That's not your problem. You know, you want to make the world team for his team in your career and how hyped he'll be coming out of it. Because if he doesn't make it, he's going to be really annoyed and might be take it out on FC Dallas. I mean, not maliciously, but like, if this didn't get me into the World cup team, why am I, what am I doing? I need to keep going. You know what I mean? [00:56:35] Speaker C: So. Oh, Shazbot. Okay. I can't believe I didn't start with this. The best part of the game, the kit matchup. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, so good. [00:56:48] Speaker C: How perfect was their away kit with the blue and white checker with the white shorts and the white socks and Dallas's dn. It was perfection. [00:56:59] Speaker A: And think about how amazing it is because of how bad it could have been if Dallas would have been in their trash white whatever and Salt Lake would have been in red and blue hoops. How awful would that have been? That would have. That would have been one of those ones where people would be like, why are they cheering when the white team Scored. Right, people? So confused. [00:57:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful kid. Yeah. [00:57:20] Speaker C: See, in my head, I'm gonna give the front office enough credit to know that beyond the fact that they got that wonky shirt deal where they got to swap shirts, they at least had the wherewithal to look at the calendar and go, even if it doesn't work out, we got to allot the fact that the DNA kit gets worn against the checkered kit because we can't let Salt Lake do what happened last time, which would be even worse this time than it was the last time, which was. Yeah. Because it would be almost the identical shirt. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Well, I hate to. Hate to ruin a good story for you, but guess what the Vancouver kit matchup is. [00:57:52] Speaker C: Oh, I'm sure Dallas is wearing the Inferno kit and Vancouver's wearing those cool Navy kids. [00:57:57] Speaker A: The awesome Vancouver away Navy kit, which is great in Dallas, will be in their way. It's, you know. [00:58:03] Speaker C: Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. [00:58:06] Speaker A: I mean, I only hate it because the Dallas one is bad if the. And the Vancouver one is amazing. I mean, at least it'll be a clean match. [00:58:12] Speaker C: No, no, you hate it because you don't wear your secondary kit at home, Buzz. Period. The end part of that may also [00:58:20] Speaker B: be because Vancouver's going to be doing a week in Texas playing Houston on Saturday, too, so it's easier to bring one circuit and wash it. [00:58:30] Speaker C: Man, MLS teams travel with like 15,000 people. They can bring two kids. [00:58:36] Speaker B: Hey, tariffs from Canada, man. [00:58:39] Speaker C: Good Lord. [00:58:42] Speaker A: Ridiculous. [00:58:43] Speaker C: It was great. Earlier the week or the week before, I had seen the Orlando, Miami purple and pink matchup and thought, okay, that's some pink. That's some peak MLS kit assignment there. But this one just had all the good feels. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Oh, it was so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the best kit matchups we've ever seen, probably. I mean, it's right up there with the greatest we've seen. Hell, yeah. [00:59:05] Speaker C: All right. Anything else about football club Dallas before we move on to all the other victories? [00:59:11] Speaker B: Stuff? Well, I was gonna say one thing. Obviously we're talking about Quill with the. The shape and everything. Two games in a row, he's defending a lead and gone to the bench for Sam Saver and Logan Farrington. We've kind of criticized him in the past on. On sitting on the lead a little bit too early, so it's great to see, you know, going out and actually attacking it. [00:59:36] Speaker C: Yeah. But my observation from the game was as he took all of his possession guys off the field and what little possession they had, they completely evacuated. And that is what largely caused them to have to suffer as much as they did for the last 20, 30 minutes of the game. [00:59:54] Speaker B: All right, fair shit on my pride. [00:59:57] Speaker C: I didn't mean to shit on it, but you know what I'm saying, like, when you. I mean, I agree, putting those guys on to try to give you something to go forward is great, but the byproduct of that was, is they just could not keep the ball at all. You took Moreno off, you took Musa off, you took somebody else off. I can't remember. Valiente, whoever it was, they took off. [01:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:17] Speaker C: And they just could not keep the ball to save their life. [01:00:21] Speaker A: Well, it also changed the tactic a little bit. They went to more of like a 5, 4, 1, you know, with an extra center back in there, you know, without really. And they didn't change it into like a wing back type situation. They kept it like Norris was the left back still. You know, it was a very defensive mindset with that five. [01:00:35] Speaker B: And it was also. There was also a reaction to Rail Salt Lake changing their formation, too. [01:00:42] Speaker C: Yeah, Dan, you ultimately are the one that's correct in this assessment because the change in formation gave him a third goal. They didn't give up. And, you know, they gave up. We probably should talk about that too [01:00:53] Speaker A: before we go go the brain mush. Talk about the brain mush. [01:00:56] Speaker C: The brain poop or whatever you called it by. By Shaq Moore, which you watching that. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Not just him. Yeah. [01:01:03] Speaker B: What a great run. What an odd four. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, you. You applaud the effort. You applaud like the, okay, I've got the ball and I'm gonna go forward. Like, okay, that's exciting. There's two mental mistakes there for me. One is that they're both about game situation management. It's in the 85th minute of the game. You're winning two nothing at that point. Right. Most dangerous, leaving soccer. So your. Your defensive success is happening because of this block 44. Shaq Moore is a huge part of that shape and that cohesion. And for so Shaq Moore to decide I'm the guy that's going to go 80 yards when I'm already up two goals and expose my defense is a terrible idea in terms of game management. That's an awful idea. And then he falls down. Well, it's complicated by the fact and aggravated by the fact that like three or four other guys go with him and go all the way into the attacking third. Rather than being conservative and saying like, one guy will go. And they're supposed to sit back. So now you've got like four guys up in the box, and now there's only six guys sort of spread out through the rest of the field. So that's the second decision. It's a poor decision in the 10 terms of game situation management. Now the commentator says something about, oh, and when they did the replay, look, there's four guys back and Salt Lake has got four guys. Well, that's the first time all game that you've marked up sort of 1v1 in terms of offense versus defense. And most of all, it was the first time all game that Diego Luna ended up with the ball at his feet in the box, one on one with a guy on the slight left center, his left center, which is where he can cut back onto his right foot. The only guy on their team that scares you, and you let him have a 1v1 in the box in the 85th minute because you overreached and you're [01:02:52] Speaker C: not even marked up against him very tight. [01:02:54] Speaker A: You're backed off against him. You're not. I mean, it was all like, you let him turn and face. He wasn't back to goal. He was turned and faced, which is his entire game. It was a foregone conclusion. He was going to destroy him. When it happened, it was from the minute more went running and I saw those other guys running, I thought, oh, crap. And then he fell down and I was like, oh, crap. It's just a, you know, and it's not that you don't applaud effort and fight and all that crap. What, you know, lung busting run in the 85th minute. Whatever, man. Be smart about the game because that made it 2:1. And now the game's in danger and they're up there, you're sitting way back. You've gone into this defensive shell you're playing for to hold that lead, and you give away awfulness because you made a dumb decision, you know, and so that moment was so annoyingly frustrating. And then Sam. That was why even more so, it was a joy that Sam Sarver bailed him out. You know, it was a shockingly poor decision making by multiple people. Not. It's not all Shaq Moore. [01:03:56] Speaker B: Most of those overloaded an unfortunate bit of timing in there that they not long switched the wing backs. So Johansson's just moved over to the right side. Then he's tasked with tucking inside for Shaq. And there's a moment, you just see him look over his shoulder, see the cross go into Lunar and it just, you know, that brain freeze of like hold on. My whole tendency is to been to go this way, but now I'm going this way and I'm, you know, now, now I'm expected to cover the center back position against their best player. And before he knows it, you know, Ramirez tried to help him out too. And Diego's dropped the shoulder and taken that shot. Yeah. [01:04:39] Speaker C: The roller coaster of emotion in the stadium was, was dramatic because that sucked the win out of the, out of the place very, very quickly. All right, anything else? Football club Dallas. Three Mormons won. [01:04:55] Speaker A: Nope. No, I don't think so. [01:04:58] Speaker C: Okay, very good. Well, as we've been bragging, it's been a big week of victory all around. Even Byrne Jr won a game. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah, two nothing over Minnesota United. Two on the road is a pretty good team. The biggest takeaway here really super important. They're also playing a back four now they're playing a 442. They're, they're using Nice as the second striker off of Simmons. In this case, Ricky Lewis was playing sort of the right midfield rig. Now they're not flexing it like FC Dallas does. It's a much more conventional. Ricky Lewis plays that wide midfield spot just like a wide midfielder should. Gets forward to and gets, you know, wide and pushes the line. Newman as the right back was more being allowed to go inside and crash the middle and actually scored his first career goal by crashing the middle on a, you know, breakaway going forward. Nico Montoya starts a second straight game, makes a nice save. Nice. Scored on a free kick, you know, underneath the wall to the front post. Minnesota presses really high and hard and sharp early on when D. Excuse me. North Texas tries to build out. So North Texas did a really nice job being able to break that and pass through that. So that was quality part of the game too. On the downside, Aspina got a second yellow and got red carded out of the game. So he was playing in the double pivot with Ian Charles. So they'll have to be without him next game. So we'll have to see how they accommodate. And who goes into the middle. Jago Garcia was on the left side of midfield, but they gave him more freedom to come inside because Torcado, the left back, is quite capable of getting forward. So a lot of similarities the way FC Dallas plays, but not total in the flex, just a modern 442 type situation. And I think that is indicative of sort of Quill really embracing this back four that he wanted North Texas to Replicate it. Because Gall wouldn't just do that just cuz he would only do that after playing the whole year with the back three. He wouldn't just switch arbitrarily, he would switch because Quilt told him to. So they got Sporty Kansas City 2 up next who's not very good either like their parent team. This will be the penultimate game at choctaw. They got one more after this. So it's a 7:30 on Saturday. If you, if you've enjoyed North Texas at Choctaw, you got two more chances to see them there before they have their big fourth of July fireworks game down in Mansfield later on this summer. [01:07:32] Speaker C: All right. And then the other victory team is Dallas Trinity who got a big road win. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah, huge win. They also won two nothing at Tampa Bay Sun. So Dallas stays in fourth. They're, they're one point ahead of Spokane. So they go into the last game of the season with a good chance to clinch. We'll talk about a second. So Cheeseman played as the 6 basically replacing in the Winnie Balata spot in a double pivot with Wisner because Balata's been out for a couple games now, like a month now and they've been trying different people. She's been looked really good man she is quality touch good, able to turn away from players, good passing. I really like that. I'd like to see more of that. Strong was the 10 with miss him on the bench. 16 year old or maybe strong 17 or 18 by now. And I apologize see the strong. I think she's going on 18 was the 10 and, and Thorton. Dan, Dan, like I know you like her. She got back in at the nine. Booba go on the bench. They definitely seem to have converted her to like a 30 minute player off the bench. And Hamid was on that left side and Lancaster on the right because Lancaster can be really decisive as she was in this game. They scored like a minute and a half into the game. This is the best they've looked in a while quite frankly. Davison, I was about to say Danielson, that's the other young lady. Hannah Davidson came back in, looked pretty solid. Miami McCutcheon did a nice job at center back. So about the best game that they played in a while. The commentators talked a lot about the coach making it where every game your job is in jeopardy and you need to bring it in training and he's been mixing it up. He's changing pieces all the time, dropping people, bringing them in and proven to be his word on that in terms of Taking out players that aren't playing well and bringing in players that are playing, that are playing well. So they're chopping it up and feeling really good. They got one more home game. This is the last home game for Amber Wisner, who is an absolutely phenomenal player and has been for 20 years since we've been watching her since she was a youth with the national team, 15 years as a pro. Basically she's played every minute ever in USL Super League and she probably will do that again with this last home game. So if you get a chance, go out and watch her, her play. Dennis McCown, who covers Trinity for us, has written a fantastic like career retirement wrap up sort of piece on her. It's in the queue and it'll come out in the next day or two, either Tuesday night or Wednesday. When you guys listening to this, it's a really, really nice piece. He's done a wonderful job on that. Talked to Amber, talked to the coach and has some great, great stories in there. So look, look for that piece. And they have, they play Fort Lauderdale in that game. Who's a bad team? Spokane, as I said, is one point back. So Trinity wins, they're through. If they tie, then they would need Spokane to not win and they could get through. And even if they lose, if Spokane loses also, Dallas will still get through. So two teams for one spot left at this point. [01:10:25] Speaker C: The other thing that related to this I wanted to mention, because this blew me away, I, you know, as a lifelong Dallas resident and kind of sports media guy, I, I don't think I've ever seen this happen before. It was remarkable and truly one of the greatest signs of the time, of, of where we've come because this wouldn't have happened even a few years ago. Saturday night, Channel 8 newscast. And it's running late because the NBA game had been on. So Michelle Montane, who is one of the sportscasters at Channel 8, is doing the sportscast Saturday night. And I'll be damned if on Saturday night the Channel 8, which is our local ABC affiliate, did a sportscast that started with the season opening of the Dallas Wings winning on the road against Caitlin Clark in Indiana, which was a big deal because Dallas obviously has two superstars or three superstars on their team and they're a very young team. She followed that up with the fact that many people don't know that we have a pro female volleyball team in the Dallas area called the Pulse that play up in Frisco. Well, they won their league championship on the same night on Saturday. And that was followed up by Trinity's 2 nothing win on the road in Tampa. It was a sports cast essentially all women's pro sports in Dallas, Texas. I've never seen that before. The only other thing that was mentioned was about 10 seconds of Rangers talk tagged on at the very end. And yeah, you'd think I'd be pissed off that she didn't mention FC Dallas getting a 31 win on the same night. But it was such a cool moment to see that actually happen in this town I was willing to let it go. So there you go. Hats off to Michelle for pulling that one off. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, we're in an era of, you know, high interest in women's professional sports sports and I was just looking up on back healed the USL attendance for the Super League for the season. Peter, I thought you might be interested in this a little bit. And you know we're, we're sometimes critical of Dallas training. Perhaps not quite drawing like we think they should, but they're currently the third highest attendance in the league according to backfield at average of 2,800a game this season. Now that's down from last year about 20%. And this does not include their exhibition games. We only count right now regular season Sporting Jacks is averaging 7, 500 and number one, that's the new team and they're in first place and they're really good. Carolina scent, also a soccer hotbed is right basically like a couple of people ahead of Trinity. So Carolina and Trinity are two and three and everybody else is below 2,000 a game. So while sometimes we wish Trinity would draw a little bit more, most of that I think is because of the, the cavernous of the Cotton bowl that we feel like watching it play in there just feels bad, you know that I think in the picture, the bigger picture of the whole league, they're actually doing fairly well, you know, but we, we want good things to happen with them and we want them to do better. So like we're, you know, when we have criticism it's because we're hoping that they can adapt and change and improve that scenario because it, it does feel so bad in the combo and I'm sure we'll talk a lot about that later this year in his, in his athletic Dallas gets going to well it [01:13:46] Speaker C: also is the question of while it is good and above average for the league is that same more bad things about the league because I don't know if those, those are sustainable numbers for professional soccer, at least at the level that it wants to be. When it's trying to compete against the WSL. [01:14:03] Speaker A: Well, looking at the USL one for example, there are two teams that are above 6,000. Boise and Portland Hearts of Pine. Then there's a three or four of them that are in three thousands and one in the four thousands. And then most everybody else is below 2,000. That's like 10 or so teams below that number. Obviously USL championship it starts to change where, you know, 15 of the 20 teams or whatever that is ish are 3, 3500 and up and only like 4 or 5 teams are below 3000. So based on what we're seeing in USL1, you know, I think 3000 is sustainable depending on what we don't know, which is what their costs are for the Cotton Boll, we think they had a pretty good deal based on what they initially was announced with the Cotton Bowl. Now in a couple of years maybe. This is going to be an interesting question. It's like if you guys are paying for the Cotton bowl or paying more for the Cotton bowl, how does that change? So it's going to be interesting landscape over the next couple years. But I feel really good about the health of Dallas Trinity relative to the health of the most of the Super League. [01:15:07] Speaker C: 100%. But I think that's part of the interesting story and to be determined how this is going to work in the usl, especially for the upcoming USL premiere, which is because it is not a revenue sharing league and it's every man for themself, an individual club could be killing it. But if all the other teams suck, the league goes away, you know, you know what I'm saying? So I think that's one of the things that everybody needs to keep an eye on and terms of how this is going to go. And the other thing is a lot of it's just expectation setting. Like if everybody as a fan base is cool with the all of these USL leagues being, you know, what's the right way to say it? Buzz that. Not leagues trying to become a top 10 or top five league in the world kind of thing. [01:15:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:54] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Like it's just competitive leagues made up of your average Joe's playing pro soccer. [01:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:02] Speaker C: If everybody's happy with that, then I think there's a lot of promise, especially when the, because the, you know, the attendances are lower and the revenue is lower and all that stuff. [01:16:11] Speaker A: Well, it's amazing, Peter, to think back to when the North American Soccer League folded and think about what you and I went through as MLS was Launching and how many conversations we would have with everybody we knew with like is this going to survive? How's it going to work? And now 30 years later, MLS is looking pretty stable and we're now looking at three tiers of leagues that are all functioning professional soccer teams with anywhere from 2,000 to 10,000 in attendance. You know, the world is very, very different from when we were, when you and I first got sort of involved in this shenanigans. And, and I'm not, it's not to say that to, to undersell your idea that the USL does not have the stability that MLS does. And I've often commented my personal sort of opinion that the people pyramid here, the pyramid in England for example, or most of Europe, the pyramid builds and is the base and is the stability and the, in the top level league sits on top of that. Well here the top level league sits on its own and the rest of the pro soccer in my opinion hangs off of the stability of the top team because the stability of these other lower level teams is really chaotic and, and volatile. So it's a, it's a very different landscape than most of the world. But it's such a joy. I mean I, I, when we started this podcast on this website, we were worried about FCDs going to survive and now we're talking about there being seven or eight professional teams in the metroplex that doesn't even count your semi pro USL 2s. I mean it's bonkers. So you know, I'm sure that if, if, if 80 of these teams can survive and continue to build, then I think things will become more and more stable. And now we're looking at this expansion of MLS next pro where this capital group is coming in and talking about adding, doubling the number of teams or something and these 150 markets they've identified that they could put his name in and such. So it's going to be a fascinating next 30 years after this first 30 years. It's crazy. [01:18:04] Speaker C: Remarkable. Dan must find it all very foreign and weird. [01:18:11] Speaker B: No, no, I mean that's my background is, is non league soccer in the uk so like it the, you know, the pro row argument. Everything else is always maddening when people talk about the high points but not the harsh realities of it. So it's always refreshing to, to hear that as a consideration. [01:18:31] Speaker C: Well, it was a fun week. Lots of stuff to celebrate and big wins for, for everybody and we'll look forward to another week too. So anything else that we need to get to before we go oh, I'm [01:18:47] Speaker A: looking, checking my notes. Oh, the USL2 teams. The. Your. Your MPSLs, your league for clubs of all kicking off right about now. I have not checked to see if FC Dallas U23 is coming back. I hope it is. But this week is McKinney versus Denton. McKinney Chupacabras versus Denton Diablos. That is the USL2 game of the week. It's being hyped up nationally, is the biggest game of the week. So that's super cool. If you guys are into local soccer, you should go check that out. [01:19:16] Speaker C: Did I see that? They've already played a game against each other. Was it a friendly or something? I thought I saw a result against Fort Worth. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Ah. [01:19:24] Speaker C: Was it just a preseason game or was it a season? An in season game? [01:19:28] Speaker B: It was the first game of the season. Oh, okay. [01:19:31] Speaker A: Season kicked off last week. This week, I think. I think this is McKinney's first game. I don't think they started last week, but you know, this is the game of the week and the whole National League, so obviously the hype is real on this one. Denton handled four worth pretty easily. McKinney with Frank Gallup, obviously that's a big deal. People are expecting that to be impactful. This is his first game coaching, so that's wild. That's like. That's another reason to go out and check that game out and see what Frank y' all soon down there on the sideline. Peter, you should get my show. [01:19:59] Speaker C: Yeah, Andy can speak Canadian to him. [01:20:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, they can. They can talk about how exciting they are for Canada in the World cup, right? Hosting. Right. They never, probably never thought Canada would be hosting because they probably couldn't have got it without. Without the U.S. so anyway, that's a big game on the local level, you know, go out there and check that out. [01:20:19] Speaker C: And where is it being played? [01:20:21] Speaker A: I believe it's at McKinney. And McKinney added a former academy player, Alejandro Uzura. Player I have quite liked for a long time, but he keeps getting hurt, so he's kind of falling out. He's playing USL too. Probably trying to get some game on tape and try and get himself something going. So he's still quite young. But anyway, go out and check that out. Support local soccer. Begin. [01:20:43] Speaker C: Speaking of local soccer, before we go, Dan, how's the Husky Hive doing these days? [01:20:50] Speaker B: So that league, every three seasons, they. They. They redo the team. So now in a different team. [01:21:00] Speaker C: You're not on the Husky Hive anymore. [01:21:02] Speaker B: The Husky Hive does not exist anymore. [01:21:05] Speaker C: Oh my gosh. What are you on now? [01:21:08] Speaker B: We haven't decided on a name yet, but the red team, so. Which I'm a lot happier about because I hate yellow. [01:21:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Watford yellow. That is Dan's worst nightmare. [01:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that was, that was the worst part. I have ev. I have every color soccer jersey under the sun, but when I got drafted onto a team in yellow, I was like, crap. That's. That's the one color. That's the one I don't have. Plenty of red. Tons of red. [01:21:35] Speaker C: All right, well, keep us posted. [01:21:37] Speaker A: I thought of one tiny little thing I wanted to mention. The academy signed a deal with a youth club called Forms Academy. Oh, this is Forms Academy is a. I, I believe. I'm not speaking an outturn here is a. Basically runs at academy agent below. So we're talking about like U11 and down. It's a very big like a very well respected instructional skills kind of club. They've produced a bunch of really quality players that have come to various clubs. So they've signed sort of a affiliate kind of deal with FC Dallas to funnel their players to the FC Dallas Academy. So this is a really nice youth soccer development for FC Dallas and Forms recognition that Forms is a really, really good club. Very young, young, young kid club. But it's a nice agreement, a nice partnership, I think. So notable, if you're a big F. [01:22:28] Speaker C: Dallas pathway person, that is an interesting development. I had not heard that news, so thank you for sharing that buzz. I've heard really, really good things about the people running the forums organization and how they go about training the young kids and everything. So that's a cool idea that they've built that off. [01:22:45] Speaker A: I don't, I don't know anybody involved with it. I just like you. I always hear all the time about how great it is and I've. And I've known of some players that have come out of there that turned out to be really good. So it's a great sort of development. I, you know, I, I still feel like sometimes it's a shame the way some parts of this market hate SC Dallas when you kind of would like it where the whole metroplex should support and pull. I know why it is. I understand that. And obviously the new pro teams coming in is going to change that landscape a bit. But in the meantime it's nice to see Dallas having some good relationships. FC Dallas having good relationships with some of these other clubs like they do with Hornets and now they do with. That one's unofficial. But Forms is a more of a is now more of an affiliate agreement. So that's super cool. [01:23:24] Speaker C: Excellent stuff. All right, very good, Dan. Not enough Dan. This episode. I'm just gonna say it out loud. More Dan, please. [01:23:33] Speaker B: Well, I'll. I'll try harder. [01:23:36] Speaker C: Okay. [01:23:37] Speaker B: No, I mean I, we, we had three games. I didn't get a chance to watch two of them. So I mean, proportionally there's, you know, fair. [01:23:45] Speaker C: All right, so Dan's playing right back and kind of hiding himself in the game. I get it. Okay, very good. [01:23:53] Speaker A: Don't you play right back, Peter? [01:23:56] Speaker C: I know I play right mid these days, but I'm also playing small sided 9v9 or it was 7v7 so it's not exactly the same thing. All right, very good. And Buzz, thank you very much sir. It's good to see you again. [01:24:08] Speaker A: Hey man, I love you guys are here for hang out with us. [01:24:10] Speaker C: Yeah, any old time. Good stuff. [01:24:12] Speaker A: Third Degree the podcast is brought to you by our wonderful supporters. Just like you those that choose to help us out@our patreon.com thirddegree if you're curious about FC Dallas Styles Trinity, I think O Dallas Rodeo SC, all the teams that are coming to Dallas playing professional soccer. We got you covered. Why not throw us some support? It is greatly appreciated. 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