[00:00:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
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[00:00:49] Speaker A: Well, hello there, DFW soccer curious person you. Welcome to another episode of Third degree, the podcast.
I think this is two weeks in a row. It's Dan Crook. Howdy, Dan.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: Hi.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: Yes, it is. Congratulations. It's.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: Lovely to have you here, sir.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: For sure.
[00:01:10] Speaker C: It's good to have the time.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: It is a good time. I know. Oh, wait, that's not what you said, is it?
[00:01:16] Speaker C: To have the time.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Oh, to have the time, yes.
Time is just an abstract creation of mankind, Dan. It doesn't really exist.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: I need more of whatever doesn't exist.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Okay, excellent. And your hero. My hero. Everybody's hero. Editor, founder of third degree.net and the original soccer influencer himself, loved by millions, Buzz Carrick. Come in, Buzz.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: You know, because you say that people now say that to me when they come up to me.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: What?
[00:01:46] Speaker B: Say, hey, there's the soccer influencer or something.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Okay, that makes me happy. You know how you feel when people call Ricardo Pepe El Tran? Yeah, that's how I feel when I find out people call you the original sucker Influencer.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Really?
[00:02:00] Speaker C: Okay, but influencer has a, has a connotation of someone who's a complete knob on social media.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: If you were the original soccer influencer, I don't think that, I don't think.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: That you're a bad influence on everyone.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Oh, is that what maybe you were such. You were so good at influencing, everybody wanted to mimic you and that's where they became knobs.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: How come Steve Davis isn't the original influencer?
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Steve Davis is already anointed as the Dallas media soccer dean. Yes. The godfather of Dallas soccer media. Yeah, I, I, he already has this super high title. He doesn't need something as middle is soccer influence.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: It's mid. Yeah. Thanks.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: So confirming my midness. I appreciate that.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: And, and, and Steve's time dates predates the Internet.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: It does.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Yours starts with the Internet.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: It does. It does.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: So that's what makes you kind of the original soccer influence.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: No, that's actually a fair point.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Steve's the dean. You're the influencer.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: King gesture kind of thing.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: I don't know what that makes Dan.
[00:03:09] Speaker C: I'm just here.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Token Brit is what we needed. The accent.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Is he a pawn or a rook or a bishop?
[00:03:20] Speaker B: He's probably the bishop. Probably the bishop. I'm a person because it can move at an angle.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: I'm a human being.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: Yes.
What does that make you?
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Oh, anything other than that for sure.
Okay, well, this is not a loser podcast.
It is not a victory pod. It is once again ye olde kissing sister pod.
Second in a row for Dallas. After drawing against Broccoli, LAFC comes to town. But I will point out, just to show everybody how focused I am on the positive.
Do we realize now that Dallas is on a three game unbeaten streak and they've only lost once in their last six games. That's the three, four game against NYC fc.
So, you know, maybe they're not making up ground in the playoff chase buzz, but it could be worse, right?
[00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the problem. I think we lose sight of the fact that the form has improved, as you mentioned there, surprisingly, with basically the end of the Lucho Costa days, which just is incredible that. What a negative influence he obviously was having. But so we lose sight of that, however, in the case in the. Because they need wins. They're running out of time. They're running out of games. Yeah. So like, you know, of course I would be content if they would just play a bunch of kids and think about the future, but they're going for the playoffs, so. Okay, we're going to talk about them in that context. And tying home games is not going to get it done for you. You got to, you got to win home games. You got to win games or you're not going to get there.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Well, considering how their home record has gone this year, you'll take any point you can get.
But before we get into the game specifically, I just want to have a quick conversation about where the team sits at this moment. Because I could not get past the. The original. The. Not the original, the starting lineup graphic that the team put out. Not because of the weird layout and misleading layout that they put the players in. Yeah, but if I had showed you that starting 11 back in February of this year, you would have seen those 11 players and the weirdest look would have come across your face. And I'm going to guess, like me, you would have thought, oh, this season must absolutely go to shit.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: Maybe it probably would have taken me five minutes to reset my brain after seeing Christian Caps his name in it. Well, that'll.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Yes, Christian Cap is starting in midfield alone. Might blow a fuse. But I mean, I mean, think about this, Bernie. I mean, of course the lineup graphic is incorrect. They have Bernie playing as a left back in the graphic, which is goofy.
Farrington up front, Julio is on there.
Patterson, Delgado is such an unknown, I guess in the league that he doesn't even have his picture available to the league. Because if you go to the league lineup, he's got one of the silhouette. The silhouettes for a photo for him.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Oh, odd.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: So I'm just saying if you knew you were going to have at the beginning of the season thinking of all the players and operant options that you had. Oh, Martin, Pa. Oh, by the way, you've got some kid you barely know playing in goal too.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: I just think that lineup was incredible for a mid to late August end of season run.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Yeah. No moose in it. No. No. Big signing you've made over the winter. Your big center back signing. Your Gita is not in there. You know, we didn't know how good he was going to be last winter, but he still was your big signing. And so you just said, well, wow, that guy didn't pan out. That's, you know, it's just there's so much about it that like, do we even at that time know who Kaik was? I mean, you know.
[00:06:59] Speaker C: No.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: Who the heck is that guy?
[00:07:00] Speaker A: You know, I'm always confused by the way that it doesn't show up as Kaik in the, in the league records. He shows up as something Ferrera.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, that always throws me for a.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: Loop when I see Ferreira.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: It's like Smith. There's so many first.
Yeah. The league website database struggles with singular Brazilian names. Like all the Brazilians were. Almost all of them show up as something else. Pedrinho for a long time was Pedro, whatever some of his other names are, you know, it's just they can't handle that nickname stuff. Can't handle the single name stuff. It breaks it in some way. I guess so. They always do that. But yeah, it's weird. You're right. Because I think if you'd have looked, showed that list of names to anybody back in at Christmas, you know, when we were even at that point, you didn't have Quill on board yet, you'd have been like, I only know like four of those names and like I don't even know who these people are or. And where's the guys that we think are going to be really important. You know, it's just.
Just to show you how teams evolve, you know, as key. Because coaches work with guys and play guys in their thoughts change about who they like and who they trust and. And guys get hurt and fall in and out of the lineup and guys get bought and sold and they've already sold. I think like, is it like from four guys they've sold this season, which is in season, which is more than they usually do. So it, there's definitely a, you know, look, it's year one of a changeover. Right. So we shouldn't be surprised. There's lots of changeovers and names we don't know.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: Yeah, but there's changeover on top of the changeover.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: Like you are.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: This is not.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah, this is not the changeover. This is the changeover after the changeover. But hence. Yeah, but beyond all of that crazy lineup, weird roster of players and giving up an incredible free kick to the second most popular player in the league after one week and an international superstar with a very, very nice free kick. I think we can all agree. Yeah, the team stuck together and ended up getting a point out of that against a very good LAFC team. So, you know, I think it's not all bad.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: No, certainly not. You know, in the context of how they're playing and how cool is being forced to play. I use the word force in there. That may not be quite fair, but the way he's choosing to play based on the roster, he is available. You know, I, he, he doesn't want to play like this. He doesn't want to play 30% possession and just boot it and chase it. He doesn't want to do that. But he has to do what he has to do. He's got to play about five at the back. He's playing with double holding mids basically, you know, and the wings are dropping back and making them. It's a five, four, one block all the time. You know, he's doing what he's got to do.
You know, unfortunately, it's not quite getting him enough points at the end of the day. Like it's getting him some points is getting him better results than what he was doing like two months ago. But it's not, it's not going to be unless they take another stride forward, which is entirely possible if you bring back Musa and your G day healthy, if those guys are healthy. So try possible. You can't take another step.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: All right, well, let's. Before we, we probably should take a step back and explain the genesis of this weird 11 in the first place and how it happened or came to be.
Well.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Patamousa, you know, was pulled out at halftime in the previous game with some hamstring tightness. He did not show up on the injured list. He was cleared to play. But they quite rightly I think chose to as a precaution, not start him. He did come into the game, so it was available. But that's a smart choice. Barry Jimin comes more of the nine. That brings Julio back in. Delgado, who has played really well, he goes, he does about three great games in a row and then puts up a stinker. So he did a stinker that meant that Legit got to start a game. But then Delgado came back because Leget was. Can only play like 40 minutes now.
And then you ended up with. Because you have no Yida Abubakar had to play in the middle. And they made Shaq Moore of all people the right center back who by the way had a great defensive game. His numbers were really good and they moved Romero out there.
He was a very smart defensive player. You know, perhaps thinking that sun might be on that side possibly, you know, Ramirez over there with Moore to try and defend that side together. Bernie's on the other side and they've got the relatively soccer intelligent Iaga over there with him in case son ends up on that side, you know, so they're, they're definitely trying to cover up those wings. And then of course they played son as a nine. So Capis had a terrific both two way line, defensive and offensive. Both really good.
And so because Ramiro was over on the wing, you had to put Kaik back in the middle. So it all comes together based on the injuries and based on the decisions Quill's been making of late. So I thought overall it was about as good as you could get. Missing your two best players, Musa and your Gide Dan. How what did you think of the. The team handed putting out there?
[00:11:33] Speaker C: I mean considering they had a few hours notice of Irigide kind of getting up with a tight hamstring, I thought they, they did as. As best they could in the, in the situation.
Of course I am fully unprepared that I meant to have Quills quotes up so that I could see the answer to the question. I asked about that quick turnaround time, but. Oh well, here we are.
Yeah. Shaq Moore for being out of position. That was arguably his best game in an FC Dallas jersey.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: I know, right? Amazing. Yeah.
[00:12:12] Speaker C: Ramiro Too put in another shift at right wing back.
You know, I think just the fact that they kept Denny Buanga quiet, like completely quiet the whole game.
Granted he's not on the tear he was when he first came into the league, but that is, that's outstanding. You really can't knock that. Bernie Camungo at left wing back put in a hell of a shift.
He, you know, he's. He's kind of been sliding backwards a little bit and that was a, that was a great rebound game for him.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah. In a lot of ways this was a straight dude lineup. Right. All the big fancy, amazing top tier guys are missing. So this was all the other guys and they all played above themselves. They all played fairly well. You know, it wasn't enough to get a win, but it was, it was enough to keep them in the game and keep him in a tie and, and not get played off the field. When you would, you would look at this group that Dallas put out there and you. If you ask yourself, do any of these guys start on the LAFC roster and I don't. Of the 11 that are out there, I don't think any of them do. You know, if you. I think Musa would over there over LA's homegrown if, if you wanted to count that, I think Oz probably would clearly game over coast, you know, and maybe he would even if they had all their defensive healthy. So like this 11 is undermanned across the board against LAFC but yet put in a good cohesive team performance. Played together defense, a little bit of scramble defending but did enough to keep it out, you know, and it gave up the. The one foul that turned into a free kick was one of the softest penalties I've ever seen. Call was ridiculous. Cabus maybe needs to know just to stay away from the guy in that zone at all. But I didn't think it was a foul. Anyway. Pretty solid performance overall, really.
You have to say I think it.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Is kind of weird how LAFC had the two like super identifiable Dallas players on their roster with cause and Hollingshead.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: You know, we're talking about all this but I will want to bring up very quickly and we can discuss this at length if you'd like. If is in your discord after the game. I was shocked. I don't know why because it's online discussion in Buzz's discord at the amount of praise and kind of open thinking of, well, maybe we don't need Martin Paz anymore because this collode guy was so damn good I mean, you know, he does a couple things better than Paz does, and, you know, this and that.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: He does a couple things better than pause that are important.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: People losing their mind. I just want to know, are people losing their minds?
[00:14:44] Speaker B: Are they.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Is this, like, a serious conversation, or is this just recency bias?
[00:14:49] Speaker B: Well, there's definitely some recency bias, and it's certainly nice to have two keepers that are good enough that you even can have this conversation, because usually you can't even have this conversation.
I think at the end of the day, you know, there's. There's a. There's a couple qualities of Paz's game that would make you pick him, you know, and I think the sun goal, the sun free kick is one where that would stand out, you know?
[00:15:11] Speaker A: You think Paul saves that?
[00:15:12] Speaker B: No, but I think he gets a lot closer than Clodi did.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Is that simply a height thing?
[00:15:17] Speaker B: Well, when you add three, three and a half inches, you know, into that move, and Clody misses him by, like, 4 or 5, 6 inches, you know, I'm not saying pause would have got it either. I don't know if anyone in the world's getting that.
[00:15:27] Speaker C: That thing grazed the crossbar. That's.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that Paz is getting that. I. I don't know if anyone in the world's getting that. And if they are getting that, they're not playing in major league Soccer. I'm just saying that those three inches is three inches closer that pause might have been to the ball. Pause also. Both of them have really good lateral quickness, but pause has an explosiveness that gets him to the post. Sometimes when Collode might come up an inch or two or three short. And that's not to say that Khalid doesn't have amazing abilities. In lots of. Lots of ways, his feet are way better than pauses, that's for sure. They're both equal shot stoppers. You know, there's. There's certainly good qualities to Collode's game that are going to make him a quality professional in this league for a long, long time. But Cody's not getting cast with the Dutch under 23 team. You know what I mean? Cody's not getting cast with the US under 23 team. Well, not anymore. He's too old. But you know what I mean? Like, there's a difference. When you're talking about the level of upside of these two players. That doesn't mean that we don't think Collodi is fantastic, and we're not happy to See him start all the time. And if you're going to become a incredibly oriented possession team, which is something that Quill may try to move towards, certainly more than he is now, then it may benefit you to have a keeper like Cody with exceptional feet. If you're going to play that way, you know that's a decision they're going to have to make. And at the end of the day, I have an immense belief in Drew Keyshawn's ability to make bad decisions. If Drew Keyshawn decides that Clodi is the better keeper, then I'm okay with that. If he decides Pause is a better keeper, I'm okay with that. I'm not going to complain either way because I think that guy is much better at this than I am.
[00:17:03] Speaker A: But is there any truth to the rumor that Collodi's grandma is from the Marshall Islands?
Just wondering if.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: I just wondered.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I thought. I think I read that on Twitter somewhere.
Okay, this is where one of those weird moments in Third Degree, the podcast. Right. Derail everything, because I have a very curious interest and question I must ask Buzz right now or I will forget and regret it later on. Listening to you dissect and give an analysis of goalkeepers.
As somebody who prides themselves on the ability to judge talent and scout players, where does the like. Let me think of the best way to ask this question. Do you feel like you can scout goalkeepers as well as you do field players?
[00:17:49] Speaker B: No, absolutely not.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: Okay.
What position on the field are you best at scouting a player at?
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Well, I think most of the field players, I'm about equal, but goalie, I'm definitely worse.
Part of the problem for me in scouting a goalie is that in a soccer game, a goalie might only make three or four saves. He might only have a couple of moments, you know, and he might, depending on how you play, he may not touch the ball hardly at all. So it can be very difficult for me to scout a goalie just on that. I think. I think a lot of your goalie scouting has to happen in training, where you're getting hundreds and hundreds of reps, you know, so it's a. It's a very different animal. And it's like when I'm looking for a goalie, I try. I can't look at a goalie with just like a wide open mind and like a macro sense, like I can a field player. I have to think about their individual components more because I only get to see them, you know, very limited time in a game. I mean, they're in the game the whole time, but they're standing there for 70 minutes doing nothing. You know what I mean? It's like very few touches. So I try and look for components when I very. When I get these little bunch of chances to watch them, I, you know, I try and say, like, oh, how good is he getting up? How good is his feet? How good is he punching? How good is he with the box? How good is he coming out? Is he fearless? I try and look at all those components. I've gotten a lot better at it. But I still think that's my weakest ability to scout. You know, I can usually tell the difference between a guy that's got the potential to be a professional and one that doesn't, and goalkeeper. That's usually pretty obvious. But the difference between Jesse Gonzalez coming out and the different. And. And Antonio Carrera coming out and Michael Collode when he finally signed, you know, those differences are harder to spot without me being very meticulous about breaking down their individual components.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Thank you, Buzz. That was very educational, informational. Dan. I'm sorry for derailing the podcast.
[00:19:42] Speaker C: I'm used to it.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: All right, back to the game.
Any other particular insights or thoughts, Dan, or Buzz, about the performance? The 1:1 draw that you want to dwell on today?
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd like to talk about Patrick and Delgado, because I'd like to go beyond just like that.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: I thought Matt Doyle is tuned in and sat down, locked in right now.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I so much wanted to talk about Delgado. I did a bird about him because I didn't want to wait till the podcast. I think I was. My opinion on him, and I. I think this is echoed by something I heard Quill say is completely different. No, he didn't say it. Sorry. The commentators on the broadcast repeated a story that Quill told about Delgado, and for me, when they bought Delgado, I. I wasn't seeing it. I saw a guy that was.
I'm going to go so far as to say lazy, that didn't work hard, didn't work for his teammates, spent about 80% of the game not doing anything, you know, would have a moment or two. But, like, I didn't get it. I was like, why are we buying that guy? You know, I see the size, I see the range, I see the power, I see the potential. But, like, the mind for me was not there even going into the start of this season.
And I thought, I'm still not getting it. He's still not doing it. But then the back end of this season and the cut. The story that they told in the broadcast about Quill. Quill talking about him. He said that. And I'm gonna paraphrase and I didn't record it. So if I get a wording wrong here, nobody yell at me. But they basically. Yeah, they basically said Quill was like. Quill said that he couldn't stand the guy, that he couldn't stand Delgado either. And it was like. But then over time, the guy has the. Patrick has worked hard and his. He's progressed and now Quill loves him and thinks he wants. He wants him in there all the time. And you can look at the stats from this game and it's not elite yet, but 43 touches. He ended up with five shot creating actions.
He had the assist, three progressive passes. Most importantly, zero miss controls, zero dispossessions. So when he's on, I now think to myself, okay, within a season or two, is he good enough?
Even going into next year, is he good enough that you don't need to spend a DP at a 10. We know Cole wants to play 4, 2, 3, 1.
So this is what I'm. I'm now looking in the back end of this season as. Can Delgado be the. The underneath guy, that 10 guy in a 4, 2, 3, 1.
Can they use the DP in a different position? Is he good enough?
I think it's a really important question because you're talking about one of the most important positions on the field. And I just wanted to give the dude credit because I think he's playing out of his mind. Other than the stinker that he puts up every third or fourth game. Other than that, if we can iron out that consistency, you know, like post Acosta, he's become invaluable in the front half of the field. And I just think it's remarkable. And I'm willing to admit that I was completely wrong about the guy. And I think that the. Quill's probably wrong about him too, originally. And he's co. The guys coached him up and Delgado's playing really well. And I think he's a real asset to the team at this point in time, which is nice because they haven't hit but on a U22 initiative before, other than maybe sort of geo. But this is the one so far.
[00:22:46] Speaker C: Quill actually did refer to Delgado as the most improved player over the season too.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Okay, there you go. Yeah, backing up what I'm talking about. So I think it was important to. To talk about what a great job that kid's done and how important I think he could be going forward.
Yeah.
[00:23:00] Speaker C: And talked about how his work rates really, really come along, especially in games where they're not having 60 possession, not having the ball 60 of the time.
So yeah, to get to kind of get up for those moments is. It's definitely good in that role.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: We just need him not to regularly drop a stinker.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, believe me, when he goes bad, it's awful. You can remember the game that got him benched for legit like two games ago. It was, it was bad. But like know I, I'm hopefully that consistency will be part of the next part of his progression. He is only 20. He's not 21 until I think October. Yeah.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: And then we got a nice goal from the Bee.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, coast tipped it but I don't think it goes in if coast doesn't tip it. But you know, really again, nice pass from Delgado when he makes a recovery, a high recovery.
And then Farrington got, got a quick trigger off of it. That was really nice. That's a quality goal.
You know, I got a little lucky with the deflection because that makes it the keeper going wrong footed the other way. But you know, sometimes you got to take the breaks when they come. Like there's been times they get breaks and they don't get them and that's. There's swing tying and not tying sometimes.
[00:24:04] Speaker C: I think they also really did well to identify that, you know, coast did follow the ball back a little further and, and did. Did keep Logan on side. So play the quick ball, get the turn and. And go for it.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Were you surprised you played Capis at least? I guess maybe the question, the better way to ask is this. In the misleading graphic lineup they have, Cap is playing kind of as the attacking mid.
Where did he really play and what kind of just overall thoughts on another performance by him?
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Well, the reality is he played the double pivot with Kaik just like you know, they've been playing the same. I call it a three, four, three. Coach to the commentators was assisting. It's a back five. Whatever. It's the same shape. We all know the difference between those two shapes. It's because of the low possession. It often it looks more like a back five. Five. It's the same formation. It's a double pivot with Kaik in the middle. And if I gave you this line right, 90 passing, three progressive passes, one progressive carry, one from one on take ons five balls into the final third defensively, two for two on tackles, two for three on challenges, three blocks, four recoveries and just one miscontrol. Notice possessions. That's a fantastic line. And that's Capis. He outplayed both Tyek and Bernie in this game. So like the nice thing, do me.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: A favor, read Kaik's line.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: I don't have it in front of me. Pause. Oh, all right. So here's Kaik's line shot creating actions zero.
You'd have three progressive passes. That's good. One progressive carry. That's. That part's the same as Capis. Defensively, here's Kai's line.
0 for 0 on tackles, 0 for 0 on challenges. One block, two intercepts.
So he Cap is outplayed Kaik defensively and offensively. So fantastic game. And this is only what, three, four games. So I, I fully recognize that what we were hoping for, what I was hoping for out of campus was to be a better dude than Show Cafe Mana. And already he is. So. You know, one of the things about getting better.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: $4 million, right.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: And one of the things about getting better is upgrading your dudes. It's like Kappas is not going to be a DP game breaking player. But he really quickly has established it looks to me like based on the coach's choices, he's already a first. One of the first guys written on the lineup like Kaik and Ramiro almost at this point are rotating. I think Ramiro probably will also be pretty much a locked choice. I think Kaik will be in and out based on where they have to move Ramiro around. But. But Capus is already showing his two way game and the reason why Quill brought him here now, he's not going to be exceptional. He's not going to break the league. I'm not saying any of that stuff. I'm just saying like sometimes you just need really good solid pieces and good leaders and he's one of those guys.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: Well, Dallas won LAFC 1. Dallas now is off. When did we decide they were. They're off for quite a while, right? They're not sixth. They play at St. Louis on the sixth. So no action till then. We'll all just sit around, twiddle our thumbs.
[00:26:56] Speaker C: I'm surprised. Surprised. Not going to talk about the crowd for the game?
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Well, I hadn't gotten there yet. What about the crowd for the game? Would you like to talk about Daniel?
[00:27:05] Speaker C: Oh, just, you know, I was obviously a very heavy, heavy, sun favored crowd. It was, it was interesting the, the mix that like if you compared it to the the leagues cup game of Miami. There was you know, a lot of people there to see Messi. There are a lot of people there just to see soccer and kind of it was a, you know, it was a bit balanced. This was, this was not that this was very much pro.
Not even lafc, just. Just pro. Some man.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: He's an incredibly likable athlete. You don't have to. I mean I'm not a Spurs fan but I've always liked that guy and if I hadn't had other things to do, I would have gone to the game.
I just. That doesn't surprise me at all that the, the fan base was. I saw somebody online questioning why Dallas fans were cheering sun scoring a goal and I'm not sure that's necessarily true happen. Yeah, but maybe the people in the stands are just. I mean that's a badass free kick.
[00:28:08] Speaker C: So in the, I mean in the build up to the game they're doing warm ups. Sun's like, you know, 40 yards over the other side.
There are. There is a line of people like 3, 4, 5 deep along the entire front of the field with sun career jersey, son.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: I'm sure.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: Yeah, Tottenham jerseys, Sun, LAFC jerseys. Like you know, I think most of a significant proportion of the Korean population of DFW was in Frisco.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: He will be worth every frickin penny of that 26 and a half million dollars they spent to get him in LA just simply because la. I didn't even know this. Do you realize LA is the largest Korean population in the world outside of South Korea?
[00:28:55] Speaker B: That's not surprising.
[00:28:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought it was like third. I didn't realize it was the largest Korean population. And he's, you know, he's their messy man, he's their superstar. So that's great.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: Dan, do they sell that sun jersey with the in Korean like that that I've seen? Like is that actually a thing you can buy or is that just.
[00:29:14] Speaker C: There were fans wearing it? So yeah, I mean it must be available from somewhere.
[00:29:17] Speaker A: I think it's available from the league website, the league or maybe LAFC's website or something, but it's not.
[00:29:24] Speaker C: It was a really nice touch though.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: It was a cool idea. Super smart, great idea. I mean I don't know what it says but yeah, it's a cool idea.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Well, I assume it's his name, but I don't know for sure.
[00:29:33] Speaker C: Yeah, it's probably just Hm.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: Son, how is.
Yeah, I would not know.
[00:29:39] Speaker C: You pull out your phone and you.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Use Google identifier Yeah.
[00:29:45] Speaker C: But also the largest attendance of the season.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: How is that possible?
[00:29:49] Speaker C: Because they sold standing room only tickets.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Where did they. Where did people stand?
[00:29:54] Speaker C: On the concourse, I guess.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: Well, no, seriously, wait a second. Hold on. Now I'm confused.
The place is half closed. Where would you. Where do people stand?
[00:30:04] Speaker C: I'd be on the side with the club.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: In the club itself?
[00:30:09] Speaker C: Well, no, on the concourse because you've got like the. You've got the disabled seating at top and little standing areas.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: It seems like a fire hazard.
[00:30:19] Speaker C: I mean, it's not.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: The lanes are clear. Yeah.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Okay, so what was the final number?
[00:30:24] Speaker C: 11,000, 151.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Well, wait, that's only one 100 more than what it normally is.
[00:30:30] Speaker C: It is. Yeah, you're right.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: A record's a record.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: Peter Mighty club. Good lord.
[00:30:36] Speaker C: There was a LA Galaxy game that was the, the regular Toyota Stadium attendance record. It was like 23,000 something. Even though it's a 22,500 seat stadium Stadium. Because.
[00:30:48] Speaker A: Okay, but unlike other quote unquote sellouts, I'm doing air to quotes here for you guys to see, but you can't hear here.
That's me doing air quotes.
Was that, Was it microphone?
That's a different. That's only Dan's.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Is that it? Was it butts and seats sellout?
[00:31:12] Speaker C: It was, but since seats and butts who try to sell their tickets for more than they're worth on access sellout. There were. There were some empty seats, but there were also.
There were people trying to sell tickets for $6,000.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: All right.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: I wonder what the most expensive seat went for that day.
On the secondary market right up to.
[00:31:34] Speaker C: Kickoff, there were actually support a section tickets going for $27. I think a lot of people kind of revise their expectations quite late in the day.
Yeah. You mentioned fire hazard for people listening to the radio broadcast, you could hear the fire alarms going off. We had the fire alarms in the press box started going off. There was a whole. Are we evacuating? Is this real? Is this not what's happening?
But yeah, I guess all's well. Funny enough, the game just. There was never any doubt of the game stopping.
And then we just watched the fight. Fire trucks rolling down Frisco Main Street.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: Did you have to evacuate?
[00:32:10] Speaker C: No, there was. There was a moment where there was the order to evacuate to the first floor, but then they realized that actually it was a false alarm. There was.
I don't know, I think it was something to do with the electrics or something.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: Interesting. All right, well, very good. Well, I guess a good result. I don't know where we're at these days and wanting to feel like is it such a crap God forsaken season that we think this is a good result?
[00:32:37] Speaker B: I suppose it's a good result in the context of the individual game, which is a tie, missing all those players against lafc. In the context of the season, it's not a good result. You need to win.
[00:32:46] Speaker C: Here's the thing. You held the team with the highest XG in the league to a set piece goal and a direct set piece goal. Nothing in play.
They had 20 shots, didn't do shit. All of them.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: All right, well, LAFC is in fifth on 41 points. Just for cross reference, Dallas in 11th on 30 points after playing 27 games.
So that puts him a point behind Salt Lake who are in 10th same amount of games and five points behind Broccoli who also have a game in hand.
So.
[00:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And San Jose on 35 also.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: And San Jose also on 35.
Crossing the Mendoza line is Colorado at 36. So.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: And you can't discount Houston on 29. Right. One point behind you too, right?
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Exactly.
So Buzz, what's the math on. What are you, what are you claiming needs to be done for this team to somehow ask back their way into the playoffs?
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Well, you almost certainly still need 42 points. That's where it's almost always been. You know, if you have some fluke results, maybe it would slide down to like a 40, but I'm pretty sure you're going to need 42.
That's in seven games. That's four wins in seven games. You know, 12 points basically.
So that's a lot. I mean you have to, you have to go from a team that is, you know, went just over a point a game, it was just barely than a tie every game up to, you know, basically well above.500 in relative terms like four wins and seven. Four wins and seven is a tough ask for anybody, let alone a team that's been basically playing on 1.1. So yes, it technically is possible. And if you look at the schedule, you know you got two games do that. You got the two games against the Galaxy who are distracted by their cup run, but I think they'll be over with that by the time you play them. Unfortunately, you know, Austin is a rival game, so you never know. St. Louis is not very good. They just fired their technical director.
Colorado is relatively speaking near you in the standings. Portland at Portland is probably pretty tough, but you know, there are games in there that are winnable.
Can you get four of them going to, going into Vancouver on the last game of the season, they're probably going to arrest people. It probably would be very difficult. Even with them resting people. They're very good.
So, you know, it's, it's. It's tough.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So the run of the schedule is at St. Louis, home against Austin, at home against Colorado, at Portland, home against the Galaxy, then away against the Galaxy and then ending the season in Vancouver.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe the away against the Galaxy is the one that was moved. It's the one that would have been this weekend has been relocated because of their cup run. I believe so.
[00:35:31] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:35:32] Speaker B: You know, that would have been. If it had been in sequence, you would have had it in St. Louis, you know, winnable games even on the road with the way Dallas plays on the road. Right. And then you would have had Austin at home and then you would have had Colorado home. So, like, you would have had a good chance to make yourself feel really good over the next four games, but now it's a little bit harder.
[00:35:50] Speaker C: I think you can, you can balance that with the chance to give Musa some rest. Irigido some rest.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Yeah, pause.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: Some rest. Let. Let all three of their hamstrings just kind of gather a little bit.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
Red flag, by the way, on the amount of hamstring problems Dallas is having late in the season and ACL's in the second team, you know, they've improved their training situation, their fitness situation, their health situation. It's better than last year, but it still is. Is off. Still not great.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: Too many, too many star players are being overworked and getting these hamstring problems. So it's something to keep an eye on as they go forward because it still needs a little help.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Well, since we don't have a game, we won't have a played game to talk about next week. We will save the preview for St. Louis, which will happen the following weekend for next week's pod. How about that?
[00:36:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: Buzz, you can also provide great insight because you were there for the opener of the second season of Dallas Trinity, who got a really nice comeback win.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: They did.
They chose to go with the. This was. I think this was up for debate internally in their team. They chose to go with the model, the tactical model where somebody else played the Lexi Missimo role. They. They had Wina Balata, I believe that's how you say her first name is a young, younger player.
She scored. She played in the Lexi role and she scored. People were a little Surprised myself included that it wasn't Lancaster, that they went with a player more similar to Misimo. So we'll, we'll track that as we go forward.
I actually think Celie Strawn might be a legit candidate in that same role because she came in late in the game and looked really bright. That's the, you know, 18 year old academy young lady who was the young player of the year.
So Blotto got the first goal. That was good.
Thornton got the second goal on a header like she was Owen Wolf crushing Shaq Moore. Just fantastic.
The defense probably still needs a little bit of work, some cohesion time, maybe even a body or two. The, the new center back got, made a mistake and got beat, you know, one on one for the goal for Spokane that, that, that got them their, their, their goal and made the game in contention when it really probably shouldn't have not have been.
The heat was a factor. Spokane wilted past about the 60th minute. They really ran out of juice and couldn't hang with Trinity because Trinity has some verticality and really want to pin you back with their wings with. I could go and um, bolt pin you back, make it wear you out. So they have a really nice space. I think having watched Trinity against SM and watching them now against Spokane, very solid team, very. Lots of good coverage all the way around the pitch. They've added some speed. Need to tighten the back just a little bit and when they bring in M, I think it'll take him to the next level. And because they have a phenomenal goal scorer in Ali Thornton who's a pure nine, you know, in, in a Petter moves the kind of way. Just fantastic play. Players downside 2700 on opening day is not very good.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: No, I. Well, I mean it also is, I'm guessing somewhat of a reflection of the lack of how or not lack how they chose to promote the preseason and get interest.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: No momentum. Yeah, I mean like, no, there was nothing to talk about. I mean like we tried our best to talk about it but like, like even around soccer circles, like no one was talking about Trinity. Like there was ads on my social media, but there was like there was no, no real articles, no real dialogues. No, none of that stuff was happening. You know, it just was off the radar.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: What about the situation at the Cotton Ball with the work being done on the facility and parking and all that?
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Yeah, almost done. I'm. They're telling me that like by. They have this open house on the September something the 19th. Maybe like after that it'll all be finished and I think they only have one or two home games before then.
And then the new press box will be available. The new. They'll. They'll switch everybody around to the other side.
So. Yeah, it looks really nice. You know, I.
[00:39:57] Speaker A: Noticeably different.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: No, what they've added is.
Do you know where the new end zone metal seats are? The top new end zone sections are metal. Like underneath that. Between that deck and the original deck is. On both end zones is now enclosed sweets be like suites and a new, a new media section on in one corner because for the big events they need spillover media because the press box is too small in those big events. And they've done a bunch of renovation in the press box itself, which I'm looking forward to sitting in in the future. The air conditioning.
But you know, the, in terms of the normal fan engagement, normal fan seating, nothing is different. Unless you can afford a luxury suite, you will. It's exactly the same as it always was. This was about big money guys, not people like you and me.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: So 2700 is rough. And I don't know how you, I don't know how a professional sports team survives that.
[00:40:54] Speaker C: I just, Yeah, I just think it's staggering that, that they didn't, you know, kind of try and build into the season knowing that they were going to have a direct clock clash with. With an FC Dallas game, which is going to take away a significant portion of the people that show up anyway, let alone then it be compounded by it being sun. He means game in. In Texas.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: I, I've been kind of monitoring Atletico's efforts to pre sell tickets and they're clearly trying to build a story about playing at the Cotton bowl, which I think we all agree they're going to be doing for some time.
[00:41:35] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: And it would, it would make a lot of sense for those two organizations to get together, pool their money and figure out a way to build a campaign of making the Cotton Ball cool again.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that would be nice.
You know, those, those teams work together a little bit, but not in a giant collective like you're expressing here. They're not antagonists with each other. They're friendly. Like, there has been occasions where there's been an athletico booth at the Trinity game and such. So I, you know, maybe that's possible.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: I mean, if they, if they put the right, right attractions before the game, after the game, in and around the stadium at Fair park, promote the fact that, that, you know, it's on mass transit, all that stuff, I think they can, I think it's possible to make it a desirable place to go at least in enough numbers to sell tickets and turn it into a viable product.
[00:42:30] Speaker B: Right now they're fighting the fact that the state fair is being put together like the, the tents and the walkways and the awnings are all being built.
[00:42:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: So there's all these buildings that are half constructed, eating up parts of the parking lot and eating up parts of the area right around the stadium. And of course the construction has had a big half of it wiped out where you couldn't walk around. It's going to be really nice.
Probably post Cotton Bolt. Post. Sorry, post State Fair. It'll probably be actually be what it's going to look like going forward. It should be a lot nicer, you know. And you're right, they could actually get some good I think game day atmosphere down there. But you're gonna have to do better than 2700 if you're going to do that, you know.
[00:43:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:06] Speaker B: I don't know what their costs are. And you know, they still have that deal with the Cotton bowl which, which is either pretty inexpensive or pretty maybe even free for a couple of years because the city of Dallas and all that deal they put together but you know, they don't have a whole huge organization like FC Dallas does. So their numbers are probably completely different.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: But yeah, I saw they had some job postings out there in the, in.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: The wild including mascot director of sales.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: As well sales sponsorships and they were looking for a social media director too. So everybody go apply. All right. So they've got the game coming up this Saturday also at the Cotton bowl against Brooklyn.
Is there before we get move on, is there any Lexi Mismo update when her return is anticipated?
[00:43:54] Speaker B: No, I asked for a timeline and I was given a God bless you journalist man. Yeah, I was given a indefinite like they're not putting a number on it.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: And they've never officially announced what her injury slash surgery was for, have they?
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Well, when that first happened, there was something about a ligament strain I believe it was they mentioned. But like, you know, I've heard something different since I'm sticking with their initial prognosis. They put in a press release and say that it's the ligament strain or whatever it was.
[00:44:25] Speaker A: That was a long ass time ago too.
[00:44:26] Speaker B: It was, it was. That's why I think that that now that prognosis probably was correct because that ligament, you know, could take a lot longer. It's not like a muscle. It's a little harder to Judge sometimes.
So irrespective of not being a doctor, not really knowing, you know, asking people around, I. I'm sort of getting probably an October kind of vibe, which means, like, she'll miss, you know, if that vibe is correct, I'll miss. It's probably the first two months of the season she'll basically miss or maybe a month and a half or so, so. But they didn't want to put a timeline. I don't think they want to rush her. They know that they need her for the long term, not the short term.
[00:45:02] Speaker C: So it's kind of crazy that their initial timeline was that she would come back in June.
[00:45:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's way off. So that, you know, they're new with this too sometimes. So they obviously played that wrong. And maybe you don't know how.
This is a weird thing to say, but you don't know how. Missimo is a healer. Everybody's different, you know, Alan came back super quick from his acl, from all things, you know, compared to most people. And then Giovanni did not and had like a setback and second op, you know, so.
[00:45:27] Speaker C: Yeah, and we know, like, shit, she was already training and then had the surgery after. So obviously there was some setback there.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that could definitely have changed what their initial diagnosis timeline was for sure. So, you know, they. They have some quality players. Like I said, Cely Strong looked really good when she came in in that same role. Balata did a pretty solid job. She's not obviously an elite player, but she was pretty solid. She's got a little bit of a burst, which is. But it doesn't have, like, she's not going to sprint 90 yards and beat you the whole way, but she has enough of a burst to get free.
Her passing wasn't elite, but, you know, she did get the goal, you know, and you do always have a Cameron Lancaster. You can slide in there. Now that causes a little bit of a tactical shift because Cameron wants to play up high like a second striker, and then you got to bring your wings back, but not that big of an alteration to do it. So they're perfectly capable of trying a couple different people in that role while they wait for Miss to come back.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: All right, once again, Brooklyn is in town. Saturday at the Cotton Bowl, North Texas lost their game to LAFC 2.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Boy, yeah, they got wrecked.
They. They. They brought in more.
[00:46:34] Speaker C: Some.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Some of the more veteran European guys again and sat some of the kids, and so they got lit up. Seems to be the trend.
They played a. A three back two as. As well, just like the first team does, that sort of seems to come and go. They don't. They're not as, as dedicated to it as the first first team, but they're sitting in ninth place and the A teams make the playoffs, but they're basically battling four other teams within one point, them before and behind them for two spots. So they got their hands full. They're not in a very good position to, to get in because some of those teams that are around them have gotten hotter and they've cooled off, they've gotten. They're going the wrong way.
Since they've had three or four. This is crazy to think this way, but they had a couple, three or four academy guys leave to go to college and their play has fallen since like Ian Charles left, you know, Cordlessa, Mikey Cordlessa left, you know, some important pieces and then they keep, they have guys keep getting hurt too. So they've just loaned out Tar Scott. That's not going to help them. He's off to Monterey Bay. That's the Dallas player.
[00:47:35] Speaker A: Bastard.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean that's.
He's a talented kid. You know, he hasn't quite got the goal numbers this year, but the team doesn't have the position, possession or the assist makers that they did last year. This year. So I'm hoping that he does really well at Monterey Bay. We'll see. But that's a blow for them and they've also lost Sarver, basically. So I was with the first team all the time, so they've lost two goal scoring threats and so they're not, they're struggling a bit right now.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: Well, Mr. Scott, congratulations. You just got promoted to go live in essentially Carmel, California. That place is amazing.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: I love Monterey Bay. Yeah, it's fantastic.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: It.
[00:48:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: So congratulations to him. Talk about being a pro soccer player. Getting to live in Monterey County, California.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: San Frisco.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Even if you're making, I don't know, you're making 30 grand a year or whatever, that would still be the life.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Well, he ain't at homegrown, so he's a homegrown, so he ain't making 30.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: Right, I know, but my point is, you know, getting to play USL ball in Monterey, I know California is pretty effing sweet.
[00:48:37] Speaker C: I, I didn't actually realize where that was. Yeah.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Yes, that is, that's.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: That's indeed. Yeah.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: Just south of San Francisco, north of Big Sur.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: Man, that's a beautiful country. Yeah.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: No, Pebble Beach, 17 Mile Drive, Carmel, California. And they play in a, A little Stadium over there. It's a. I saw it when, when I was up there when my wife and I went to Big Sur a couple years ago.
[00:49:00] Speaker C: It's.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: It's cool. And they've got a little. And then. And they've got some. They've got a fan base up there that are into it too. So it's a good community. Yeah, good.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Hopefully he gets games and bangs and some goals. It'd be good for him.
[00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: Scene good fresh scene. He probably use a little fresh.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: All right. Texoma winning again. Are they. Is this brand new team in the middle of its own drama still? Are they really going to make the playoffs, Buzz?
[00:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, they're in seventh. You know, they, they. They beat a team on the road. They.
They were. They were beating AV Alta 3 nothing. And so they got a second. A dumb second yellow card and then give up three goals after since they were down a man. But it's a tie. But they got. They're gonna. They're at Ford Madison this week on Wednesday, who's a beetle team.
So, you know, I don't think they're going to be one of the elites of this league in terms of like a deep playoff run, but they got a couple of guys that can really, when they're on, like Spengler when he's on, they can be in anybody. So, you know, I like their chances of getting a couple wins if they can get into the playoffs.
And they're, they're, you know, when they're, when they're healthy and when they're. They got all their pieces in, I think they're pretty competitive.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: I don't remember and I'm just as. Just done. I mean, did we talk about the report that came out about the ownership and location situation?
[00:50:15] Speaker B: No, that was this week that came. This came out.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: Okay, well, go ahead, tell everybody what the news is.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: Well, the. There was a story that was posted that said that they were going to relocate and then that story, by the way, was pulled. It went away, but.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: Oh, did it?
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
But the thing is, is it like if you're, if you believe the story and they had a source and all that stuff, so who am I to say that that's true or not? The relocation quote unquote was just a Denison. It's 11 miles away. Really. It's just like. It was really a report that they're considering a venue.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: Moving stadiums.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that's not a big deal.
[00:50:49] Speaker A: I mean, like, who reported this?
[00:50:51] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know. Some. Some soccer Website about this. A southern South Eastern kind of us kind of. Oh, okay. So, you know, I, I, I don't have any doubts that they believe they had a proper source. You know, possible the club pushed back. I don't, I don't know. You know, at the end of the day like this, the current stadium situation is not great. It's okay. You know, if they can get a better situation. Hey, fantastic to me, moving to Denison versus, you know, Sherman. Whatever dude, same thing. It's like, it's like the plane in orange instead of Grand Prairie. Who cares, right? It's not a big deal to, to change your little venue there, you know, to me. So I think it's kind of a non story now. They were trying to move to like Plano or something. That would be a story. But like it's staying in the same area. So it's like when you, when you're, when you're playing in one high school stadium versus another high school stadium, you know, to me that's a, who cares?
[00:51:43] Speaker A: I, yeah, that'll be interesting to see if they, you know, being from a little East Texas town, those, those little towns tend to be pretty tribalistic. But the difference between Kaufman and Forney and Crandall and Maybank and Malakoff or man, they might as well be different states.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: Yeah, but they're the whole Texoma Persona, you know, they're not Sherman.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: Yeah, but, but they built this on being a Sherman based team.
I don't, I mean it's not, I think, fundamental. I mean the reality is they're what, they're getting less than 2,000 a game.
[00:52:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that was like 100 people at the last game.
[00:52:18] Speaker A: Right.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: So it's a problem is in the stadium.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: Yes. So I mean this, they may have to do this and even if that means they've got to build up a new fan base, I just, I don't think it's as straightforward as saying you just moved 11 miles away. It's not, I don't think it's quite Arlington to Grand Prairie. It's a little bit different than that because those towns, the little tiny communities like that tend to be pretty tribalistic in this around here.
[00:52:42] Speaker B: Yeah, fair here.
[00:52:43] Speaker C: I mean, no, the, the big thing in the story is really the, the whole, you know what they're behind. Are they behind on payroll? Are they behind on.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: I mean any sign of a struggle and if you're having to move, that's a struggle.
[00:52:59] Speaker B: I, I've asked around about that a little bit. I think that's, you know, if they had any kind of blips like that, it was pretty minor in short term. I don't. I. I've not gotten a big. Like, they're way behind on all of kinds. Kinds of stuff.
[00:53:12] Speaker C: They were like a day or two late on payroll. But there is. Supposedly they're having a bit of a struggle with their training venue.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: I think they cleared that up though, I'm told.
We'll see.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: Well, I. At the end. At the end of the day, the idea of putting a professional team, even if it's third tier, in a marketplace as small as Sherman, Texas, was always the height of ambition.
[00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a tough battle.
[00:53:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Especially if you're not putting it in your own venue.
So.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:49] Speaker C: And it's. It's just not a nice venue.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: I have not been. I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise. Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me that it's. I mean, it's a. It's a college football facility.
[00:53:59] Speaker C: Well, it's. It's an old, old high school facility. Facility. It's, you know, you have to walk along the. Behind the field to get to the other side. There's no, there's no concessions over there. There's. There's space for a burger bar and a.
There's a little tea food truck thing that comes out.
There's no cover from the rain or the. Or the sun.
It's.
Yeah. It's kind of a little tough, I was going to say. Plus, being a school stadium, there's obviously no alcohol sales either.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Game day experience wise, it's pretty similar to most of the MPSL or USL2 experiences. Not. Not Green, not McKinney, but the rest of them. It's all about the same.
[00:54:40] Speaker A: But it also really puts an emphasis and a highlight at how successful McKenna was this year with their attendance. That's not even a pro team. I mean, that's essentially a beer. I mean, I'm. I, I don't mean to reduce it to this, but it's essentially a beer. A Sunday beer league team playing in an open division.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Yeah. College kids. Yeah. And they outdraw Trinity.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
Certainly outdraw USL1 team. So I think that's really impressive.
I'm really. I'm really looking forward to see how that rolls next season for them.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: Yeah. You. You have to wonder at a point with McKinney where if you're continuing to do that kind of thing, does somebody think this should be higher level than it is?
You know, Pro rail will change things in USL. I don't know that USL2 is involved in pro rel. I think it's just the top three. But you know, if, if, if, if Hitch keeps doing stuff like that in McKin, how long before somebody with a little bit more money comes in and says, hitch, what do you need to put this up a level? You know, let's talk about what we could do revenue wise. It's just me speculating.
[00:55:43] Speaker C: They need a conversation with Athletico Dallas.
[00:55:45] Speaker B: Yeah, you would at that point you doesn't negotiate with.
Because they own that region.
[00:55:50] Speaker A: Yes. All right. Very good. Look at us kicking ass on another episode.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: One more thing just to tease. I'm a tease it. I'm a risk teasing it because I'm supposed to get the academy rosters this week. So fingers crossed I'm going to have my fall, you know, here's your new academy teams for the year.
Things coming out soonish. Reminds me I need to text somebody to make sure that's happening.
[00:56:13] Speaker A: All right, well, I am going to tease you guys by dropping something in the chat.
I am sending it now.
Don't say what it is, just react.
Oh.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: Oh, God damn, dude.
[00:56:30] Speaker C: Personal collection.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: That's not very nice.
[00:56:33] Speaker A: It is. It's being delivered.
[00:56:36] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Pretty sweet, huh?
[00:56:39] Speaker B: I know.
[00:56:41] Speaker A: It was 90 bucks.
[00:56:43] Speaker C: Oh, that's. That's not as nice.
[00:56:44] Speaker B: Nice.
Well, well worth it though.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: We are speaking of an authentic Julian Eyestone Number 41 Brentford Goalkeeper Jersey in pink.
[00:56:58] Speaker C: You need to get signed.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: Do I? I may actually wear this one. Oh, it's short sleeve, not long sleeve.
[00:57:06] Speaker C: You need to get the. You need to get the matching shorts.
[00:57:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Full kid wagger.
[00:57:11] Speaker A: And the pink. Yes, I should. Yes.
And I could be Julian's mini Me.
Like really old mini me.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: Much. Yeah. Much shorter than.
[00:57:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you can actually. You can go. So it turns out you can go onto the Brentford store and you can order one of these and get it personalized with his name and number, which is 41.
Now I'm lucky enough to know somebody who was over there and got it in the store for me, so I'm not having to pay A shipping and B, tariffs.
[00:57:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: So if you, if you're so inclined to do that yourself, you could put. Pull that together. I know they're trying to put something together so they'll sell over a stateside without all the additional Jim jam, but.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: I don't know how that will ever work.
[00:57:58] Speaker A: So there you go.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: Super cool, man. I love it.
[00:58:02] Speaker A: Have you seen the photo that his mom posted over the Weekend of his locker. In the locker room.
[00:58:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I did.
[00:58:08] Speaker A: With the jersey and his photo and everything.
[00:58:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:58:11] Speaker A: It's pretty cool.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: That's very cool.
[00:58:14] Speaker A: Very, very cool. It's fun to know somebody playing there, right?
[00:58:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
Hopefully play at some point. That would be really fun. Not just warm up.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I doubt they'll. I doubt he'll play in the Carabao cup game this week.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: I think he's third on their death chart.
[00:58:30] Speaker A: Well, you know, it's funny, you know, they. They said that he was going to be third, but they've got four, maybe five keepers on their roster, so I don't know where he falls in that right now, but I do wonder. I need to ask his dad, like, what. What is he doing for game time right now? I mean, is he back playing with the B team or is he playing with.
I don't know, Curious how he's getting reps and everything, so.
[00:58:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: All right. I got nothing else. Dan, you got anything else?
[00:59:00] Speaker C: No, I do not.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: Well, thank you, Dan. It's good to see you again, sir.
[00:59:05] Speaker C: Likewise.
[00:59:07] Speaker A: And, Buzz. Thank you, sir.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, thanks for you guys being here.
[00:59:11] Speaker A: Oh, you did good on the scuffed podcast, by the way. I saw snippets, bits, and parts of that.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. Right? Yeah. All academy talk. That was fun.
Yeah.
[00:59:20] Speaker A: Yeah. You impress people that with your. Your knowledge. You're the only guy. I say this all the time. There's nobody else in the league that can run down the roster, the starting 11 for the U13s of their random MLS academy team like Buzz can for Dallas. Just. There isn't anybody that can do that that isn't part of the club officially.
[00:59:40] Speaker B: Yeah, 13th might be a stretch, but. Yeah, I don't think anyone at the club can do that, actually. Probably. Yeah. I got notes on all those guys all the way down.
[00:59:48] Speaker A: That's why you're the original soccer influencer. To bring this back in a perfect circle. Buzz.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks, buddy.
[00:59:54] Speaker A: All right.
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[01:00:16] Speaker A: Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. And thank you, DFW soccer area. Curious person, you. We'll speak to you next week on another episode of Third Degree, the podcast.
[01:00:27] Speaker B: Enjoy a Dallas free weekend FC Dallas. Because Dallas turn.
[01:00:31] Speaker C: Yeah, same.
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